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Smear-Gel on 25 July 2014
Tamron said:
Experimental42 said:
Tamron said:
Neither one is failing.

This is really getting tiresome.


It all depends on how you look at it.

If you think being a money consuming black hole is a failure, the Wii U is a failure. If you think having to lower your expected sales by something like half is a failure, the Wii U is a failure.

If you think games should be about fun, great mechanics, and tight controls, the Wii U is a smashing success.

And heres how i look at it, calling a console a failure so early in to it's retail life is stupid.

 

I dont need to read any more of this thread, no other comment will be more "right" than this.



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Experimental42 on 25 July 2014
fluchtpunkt said:
As long as u dont have a real insight company views with profit margins / numbers and so on u cant say if its a failure or not.

a. sell 1000 consolde with 200 dollar profit each one
OR
b. sell 5000 consoles with 20 dollar profit each one.

What console is the failure?


When a company developes a console with a specific goal in mind, and announces that goal, but later has to go back and tell everyone "never mind, you should only expect a little less than 1/3 of what we expected,"  that's a failure.



DogRemag on 25 July 2014

The WiiU is a failure due to the technology, gimmick controller and lack of new/interesting games.

 

The X1 is a failure due to the lack of first party games now that they cannot use third pary to sell, missed focus of the X1 launch not knowing what consumers wanted, a failed market strategy and now offering a generic experience.



Experimental42 on 25 July 2014
DogRemag said:

The WiiU is a failure due to the technology, gimmick controller and lack of new/interesting games.


That was kind of my point. The Wii U hasn't yet sold people on the control pad being a good innovation, yet. Mario Party 10 has a great new mechanic to it involving the game pad, by allowing a player to control bowser with his own screen. Asymmetrical gameplay like that is a good use for it that can't really be replicated on other consoles.

The camera aspect is being filled by Fatal Frame, but if they really wanted it to sell they'd push Pokemon Snap.

People seem to really underappreciate how nice the game pad is for HUD and inventory management.

Finally, the amiibo. Seriously, not having it out at the launch or launch window was the dumbest thing Nintendo has done.