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kitler53 said:
can you briefly summaries? don't want to click obvious clickbait. it just rewards the sinners.


The briefest summary would be that people shouldn't praise Xbox for the changes it made but rather remember what lead to the changes. How MS themselves purported the features as must haves and then removed them under the veil of giving people choice.



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orniletter said:

What Jim is saying

  • 1. MS started out horribly, treated its consumers like shit and blamed them for their own shortcomings; after the constant deceit about how certain changes to DRM, kinect and many other things are impossible, they apply those changes like it's no problem.
  • 2. People shouldn't just immediately perform fellatio on them for deciding not to treat us like total shit anymore. It's not that they performed an action in the interest of consumers, it's that they performed an action after they realized that their original ideas backfired.
  • 3. The original vision of the One and the current state is significantly different. The original vision is thankfully dead.
  • 4. Devs/Publishers/Industry should try to treat the consumer with respect from the get go and not lie to them and try to deceive them.


Don't treat people like shit. It's literally all the vid is about. How is that so hard to understand?

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1. The changes were not as easy to implement as you seem to think they were, though not impossible but they probably did set them back from where they wanted to be at launch.

2. No one is "performing fellatio" but it's good that MS listened to their consumers. Every company does things in their own interest.

3. Good, so what?

4. That should be assumed yes, but sometimes companies do stupid things, it's great that MS actually listened unlike most companies.



EpicRandy said:
kitler53 said:
can you briefly summaries? don't want to click obvious clickbait. it just rewards the sinners.

Summary : 7min of Xbox hate opinions, twisted truth and dubious link between different element we already heard over and over.

Name a single thing that was wrong in this video. Just one.



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Wow, so surprised you agree.

redundant rant, classic "damned if you do, damned if you don't"

Let me guess and say this on N4G



One of the few gaming journalists willing to take a stand against corporate bullshit. Good job Jim.



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Ah this is gonna be good. Wonder if we'll get any fat jokes.



phaedruss said:


1. The changes were not as easy to implement as you seem to think they were, though not impossible but they probably did set them back from where they wanted to be at launch.

2. No one is "performing fellatio" but it's good that MS listened to their consumers. Every company does things in their own interest.

3. Good, so what?

4. That should be assumed yes, but sometimes companies do stupid things, it's great that MS actually listened unlike most companies.

You seem to mistake "having to forcefully remove their favorite features to save their sales" with "listening".

You can't tell me that MS did want to remove everything because they like their customers so much. You can't tell me that they're happy about the changes they were forced to make. That's not "listening". That's grudgingly bowing to the market.



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Sorry. Its not an informative video. Despite many broken promises Xbox One has done a good job.



iceland said:
Wow, so surprised you agree.

redundant rant, classic "damned if you do, damned if you don't"

Let me guess and say this on N4G

He's not complaining about Microsoft reversing their original vision, he's upset about their constant lies. Saying you can't just turn off the always online, or that XBO will never come without Kinect. A lot of early adopters bought the XBO based on Microsoft's statements only for them to backpedal damn near everything they said. 



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vivster said:

You seem to mistake "having to forcefully remove their favorite features to save their sales" with "listening".

You can't tell me that MS did want to remove everything because they like their customers so much. You can't tell me that they're happy about the changes they were forced to make. That's not "listening". That's grudgingly bowing to the market.

Yea, that's what companies do, they "bow to the market" or they lose. I don't think any company is noble or anything like that.