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Is last gen holding current gen/next gen back in multiplat games?

Yes 98 60.49%
 
No 63 38.89%
 
Total:161

Kind of depends.

If a game was made for last-gen systems and then upgraded to work on next-gen systems; I'd consider it a 'last-gen' game. For example Call of Duty Ghosts.
If it's the other way around, and it's a game made primarily for next-gen systems and downgraded to also work on last-gen systems; I'd consider it a 'next-gen' game. For example indeed Destiny.



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fireburn95 said:

So i've been playing Destiny beta, and I freaking love it. 

I'm playing it on PS4 mainly, but I did borrow a friends psn account to download it on ps3.

And low and behold, the game runs pretty fine on PS3. Frame rate feels the same, and textures are clearly blurrier than ps4 version.

But the core game is exactly the same. I feel this is a bad thing, especially as destiny is pinned to be the BIG Next gen game.

I kinda feel, if the game runs 90% content and features wise on a previous platform, then the game isn't really next gen, and also the previous gen is holding the next gen versions back. Destiny looks beatiful, but it's no uncharted. I feel like ps3/360 is forcing the next gen versions to be 30fps, because bungie want it to seem like parity between the two gens, so less for x360 and to a lesser extent ps3 fans to complain about.

(For some fussy bobbies just replace every 'next' with 'current')


If a game was truely "next gen", it wouldn't even be POSSIBLE on a last gen console. Did you see MGS2 on PS1? No? That's because it was techincally impossible. 



Zekkyou said:
160rmf said:

After seeing this post http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6504811 , i couldn't imagine you don't being impressed. Anyway, good for you that you are enjoying, when i look at the incredible "huge" difference between last gen and "next gen", all I can think is: No thanks, call me when next gen is over

So you're basing this post on a comment i made in the context of a remaster? As a reference for my opinion of the generation jump? I lol'd.

Not only this, give me ten minutes to make a search in this site and I can find various posts of people being excited over this graphical jump, not only about TLOU, but FIFA, Tomb Rayder, GTA V, NBA, BF4, etc...

Your post is just a sample to resume all this excitement for this generation: a graphical jump, but not a graphical jump like 2d->3d or even SD->HD, it is a graphical jump way more smaller than the 7th gen improvement, when dev got used with the complicated hardware of ps3.

People that enjoy playing instead of watching, will be like: "so the ps4 and x1 got a texture improvement, a AA tract, 1080p res over the ps3 and 360... well good for them. Now, go find someone that are able to spend $500 or $400 (even more, if you consider the other country taxes) for these "huge" improvements to play the same games already available on cheaper hardware"

 



 

 

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160rmf said:
Zekkyou said:

So you're basing this post on a comment i made in the context of a remaster? As a reference for my opinion of the generation jump? I lol'd.

Not only this, give me ten minutes to make a search in this site and I can find various posts of people being excited over this graphical jump, not only about TLOU, but FIFA, Tomb Rayder, GTA V, NBA, BF4, etc...

Your post is just a sample to resume all this excitement for this generation: a graphical jump, but not a graphical jump like 2d->3d or even SD->HD, it is a graphical jump way more smaller than the 7th gen improvement, when dev got used with the complicated hardware of ps3.

People that enjoy playing instead of watching, will be like: "so the ps4 and x1 got a texture improvement, a AA tract, 1080p res over the ps3 and 360... well good for them. Now, go find someone that are able to spend $500 or $400 (even more, if you consider the other country taxes) for these "huge" improvements to play the same games already available on cheaper hardware"

 

Where in my post did i say TLOU:R's changes "excited" me? I was just happy to see they'd put more effort in than i'd previous thought they would. Going from 720p/30fps to 1080p/60fps would have satisfied most, both in improving image quality and gameplay fluidity. I thought that's all we would see. The extra stuff like texture updates and new render LODs were appreciated.

You still seem to be stuck on using cross gen titles as a reference for the hardware jump. The fact every single cross gen title thus far released is visually outdone by a couple of launch titles should put that into context.

I'd suggest taking a look at some PS2/360 cross gen titles. Truly, the jump was earth shattering in scale



Anyway, let's leave this discussion be. If the gen jump isn't enough for you, cool, enjoy complaining for the next few years ^^



Depends of how good the next-gen build is.For example:

MGS5 GZ is a very good looking game on PS4;
Battlefield 4 too(bugs though);
GTA 5 looks very promising;

on the other hand:

Assassins creed 4 is ugly on PS4(it's basically a upscaled version of PS3's)
Call of duty ghost too;



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Well of course. How can a version for the previous gen make the next gen version "not next gen" anymore?



Zekkyou said:


Anyway, let's leave this discussion be. If the gen jump isn't enough for you, cool, enjoy complaining for the next few years ^^


The problem is that you still thinking that i'm talking only about cross gen titles, look at my previous posts on this thread. Ps3 and X360 were in a different situation than ps4 is now, totally the opposite to be exact. I thought this was just a conversation. Sorry, no time for complains, too busy enjoying "current" gen



 

 

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From a technical standpoint, I would say no. But then, there are several indie games that are next gen/PC only and they could easily run on the old generation of consoles.



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