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Forums - Sales Discussion - June 2014 NPD Thread! PS4: 269k, XBO: 197k, Wii U: 140k

fatslob-:O on 18 July 2014
Smear-Gel said:

Yes, lol.

Really ? Then show me something that's recently happened ... 

Smear-Gel said:

No, lol.

There's trolls that exist everywhere and yes, that includes over at Sony's camp.

I'm well aware that there are trolls in every camp but it sounds like your over exaggerating the issue and or scapegoating them ... 



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RubberWhistleHistle on 18 July 2014
czecherychestnut said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
well i guess the thead i made about xbone+wii u closing the gap still holds true.

everybody said, "i cant wait for npd, ps4 will have 50%+ and ill bump this thread and laugh at rubberwhistlehistle for his moronic claim that ps4 is declining while xbone and wii u are inclining derp."

guess my thread wont get bumped. maybe ill just bump it myself.


Please do, I look forward to you explaining how the PS4 is declining despite not only outselling its competition but increasing its weekly sales rate despite no signifcant new games and no price cut. 

you obviouly dont understand what im saying. i guess it really is just a difficult concept to grasp. i thought it was easy.



mornelithe on 18 July 2014
KinlochKing said:
Is this united states only or naw?

NPD is always US only



Boutros on 18 July 2014
TheSource said:

These are my guesses for the year.

 

  January February March April May June July August September October November December
Wii  15,000 25,000 28,000 18,000 11,000 19,000 10,000 9,000 15,000 20,000 40,000 65,000
Xbox 360 48,000 114,000 111,000 71,000 57,000 62,000 44,000 40,000 51,000 45,000 100,000 180,000
PS3 55,000 103,000 67,000 35,000 36,000 43,000 30,000 28,000 30,000 27,000 50,000 75,000
DS 5,000 6,000 8,000 0 0              
PSP 2,000 4,000 5,000 0 0              
3DS 120,000 155,000 159,000 106,000 91,000 152,000 140,000 128,000 155,000 180,000 420,000 850,000
Vita 20,000 15,000 10,000 3,000 57,000 15,000 12,000 14,000 15,000 17,000 30,000 45,000
Wii U 49,000 82,000 70,000 49,000 60,000 140,000 100,000 90,000 120,000 160,000 285,000 500,000
X720 142,000 258,000 311,000 115,000 78,000 197,000 140,000 125,000 150,000 140,000 300,000 550,000
PS4 271,000 280,000 371,000 199,000 192,000 269,000 210,000 200,000 220,000 240,000 500,000 1,100,000

Only a 20k boost for Destiny month?



Proxy-Pie on 18 July 2014
CGI-Quality said:
MohammadBadir said:
And to think the Xbox One's downfall could've been prevented if MS just made it a regular console from the get go. It's a shame really, with the 360 following they gained in gen 7, they probably could've been toe to toe with the PS4, maybe even surpass it and win a gen for once...

Eh, I doubt, even with the 360's gains, they'd be able to overcome Sony's worldwide presence.

They atleast would've been able to overcome their US presence, that's for sure.



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RubberWhistleHistle on 18 July 2014
CGI-Quality said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
CGI-Quality said:

I don't recall any high amounts of traffic supporting your claims of a universal prediction. It was a select few (as per usual). Furthermore, if you have to count two machines closing a gap on one, the single machine must be doing something right (it was equally as ridiculous when Xbox and PlayStation fans would ban together for a similar cause when it was the 360+PS3).


its not ridiculous at all. ps4 came out of the gate selling great, and people predicted SECOND COMING OF THE PS2. my thread was a response to that. why is that so difficult for people to understand? ps4 is doing bette, yes we know that, but the argument is whether or not its going to get 50%+ marketshare? so far this year, it has, and my thread was saying that the gap is closing, and its going to dip. THATS the discussion. its not about downplaying PS4, its about making a prediction based on what we see going on in the industry. 

and youre kind of making my point saying a lot of people didnt agree with me. most people didnt, and they said WAIT FOR NPD, its going to have 50%+. well, it didnt, just like i said.

It's a hollow victory for you, though. All it proves it one extreme beat out another. No real consequence comes out of you being right about 50+% marketshare. You'd also be wrong when continuing to claim a decline for the PS4. It's "falling" compared to what? The holidays? Months just after? Well, that goes without saying, for any and all machines that came before and will release after.

So, yes, comparing two machines to one is ridiculous, if you want to have a realistic discussion about the current state of the industry. 

i made a prediction. thats it. isnt that what people do on this site? thats what people have been doing here since its inception. ps4 is selling well enough to where its not a ridiculous comparison. it would be ridiculous to compare xbone+ps4 against wii u because wii u sells nowhere close to 50% marketshare. 

youre taking too much of a fan stance at this. its not a knock at sony. and its not a way to make ms/nintendo look pathetic. its just a prediction, thats it. people happened to disagree with it, and said wait for npd. now the data was here, and my side of the prediction (at least so far) is correct. its not a shallow victory. i correctly predicted and they didnt. i dont know how to make this any more clear than i already have.



KinlochKing on 18 July 2014

Thanx..didnt know..new to this



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mornelithe on 18 July 2014
KinlochKing said:

Thanx..didnt know..new to this

No problem :) Welcome!



RubberWhistleHistle on 18 July 2014
CGI-Quality said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
CGI-Quality said:

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i made a prediction. thats it. isnt that what people do on this site? thats what people have been doing here since its inception. ps4 is selling well enough to where its not a ridiculous comparison. it would be ridiculous to compare xbone+ps4 against wii u because wii u sells nowhere close to 50% marketshare. 

youre taking too much of a fan stance at this. its not a knock at sony. and its not a way to make ms/nintendo look pathetic. its just a prediction, thats it. people happened to disagree with it, and said wait for npd. now the data was here, and my side of the prediction (at least so far) is correct. its not a shallow victory. i correctly predicted and they didnt. i dont know how to make this any more clear than i already have.

I haven't supported any side in this argument, you just equate a prediction from a select few to the views of an entire fanbase, which is unrealistic (very much like your comparison).

Since it is evident that neither side of the spectrum is going to budge, just take my views for what they are. My own. I will do the same.

i was just saying youre looking at it from a fan perspective because you say "shallow victory" as if im a nintendo fan (which i am) looking for any kind of edge. im happy that the wii u is selling better, but my comparison has nothing to do with which console do you prefer better, therefore shallow victory has nothing to do with this.

still dont see how my comparison is unrealistic. ps4 was at 57% so far this year, and that number is declining. im simply making the claim that its going to go under 50%. thats like... it. i dont see how its unrealistic, i dont even know what youre talking about.



Smear-Gel on 18 July 2014
fatslob-:O said:
Smear-Gel said:

Yes, lol.

Really ? Then show me something that's recently happened ... 

Smear-Gel said:

No, lol.

There's trolls that exist everywhere and yes, that includes over at Sony's camp.

I'm well aware that there are trolls in every camp but it sounds like your over exaggerating the issue and or scapegoating them ... 


Your very first comment to me was putting the blame for the inscessant ps4 vs wii u threads SOLELY on Nintendo fans. Most of your responses are about trying to say Sony fans rarely engage in argumentative behaviour, but Nintendo fans are all over acting that way. All my replies are based on saying that's not the case.  Your comments are the ones exaggerating.

I have not once said Nintendo fans dont act just as silly, because they do. All the fanbases do. I do have an opinion on which fanbase is most annoying but that has nothing to do with this at all.

And while the "show me or you're wrong!" argument is silly because no-one keeps a mental log of everything they do on this site just to reply to comments like this, I do remember someone being certain the Wii U would do sub 10K in Japan a specific week and he was wrong and still found some way to insult nintendo fans for being right that it didnt.