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ph4nt said:
It's to the point now where it's useless to argue about PS3 vs. 360 graphics.

in most cases they both look good enough where a few additional polygons on the Ps3 won't make it look any better.

I don't think we will ever see a ps3 game that blows the 360 graphics out of the water, just minor improvements, and i mean minor.

Have you seen what GT5P brings to the table, their cars have over twice the polygons as Forza or PGR4.  Not only that but GT5p has higher resolutions at a stable 60FPS with 16cars all racing at once on screen.  That is alot more then a minor improvement.  From what we have seen so far Killzone2 looks better then any other game on a console.  If it continues with the great story that the first one has then a 95% average is not that far away.



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@Griffin

What killzone game has ever come close to a 95% average? I am sorry but that developer is at the point where they need to actually produce a killer app before anyone should put any faith in them.



Resistance 2 will definately have the technological edge (actually more than just an edge ), it's based on Insomniac's 3rd generation engine with almost all game engine code running on the Cell's SPUs. I think it's also to Resistance 2's advantage Resistance 1 has a compelling story and good production values, which Insomniac is trying to nail even better with R2, in this regard Insomniac has a good reputation with regard to R1 and Ratchet & Clank Future and Epic seems a bit unexperienced with its simple minded space marines.

Marketing wise I think both titles will probably go head to head.



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Onyxmeth said:

Here's the complete excerpt from the original interview:

In terms of titles you are looking at in 2008, what do you have to counteract the just-announced Gears of War 2? One of the downsides of having a breadth of titles is that you might not be able to point to any one title like a Halo 3 or a GTA that are going to sell consoles. Is there a single strong PS3 title in your mind that you can point to like that?

Well, I think it is really easy to point to one when you've only got one. And so by default, that sort of solves itself.

I don't want to say that we have an embarrassment of riches, but we have the ability to go in a bunch of different directions depending upon the choice and the taste of the gamer. So we're not just forcing one genre upon our population, our installed base.

Let's break it down by calendar. It makes it a little easier to keep them organised.

We start with – and these are for the most part exclusive – but we are starting with our baseball game MLB: The Show. And quite frankly then go into a great month of April where we've got Grand Theft Auto IV and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. Anybody on the sidelines waiting for some exclusive content – Gran Turismo has been emblematic of the PlayStation brand. It's celebrating its tenth anniversary in 2008. A lot of people bought their PS2 for GT, so I think it is an important sea change product for us.

We almost go into a completely different mindset with Little Big Planet. It's very…You could almost say unusual in the sense that it's not a shooter, it is something you would definitely not see from any of the other companies. It's a very social, sharing, creating style game. Shipping in the summer/fall.

SOCOM: Confrontation shipping in the summer. SOCOM is also one of those emblematic PlayStation brands. Multiplayer. A lot of folks have grown around the PS2 [version]. Killzone 2…not quite new IP, but certainly not an established brand like SOCOM. That will be a huge FPS title.

And I think one of the biggest games for us will be Resistance 2. We expect that, in November, to go toe-to-toe against Gears of War 2. It will be our third-generation PS3 product. Insomniac, having shipped Resistance 1, quietly sold a million units. And then Ratchet & Clank last fall. This is the third [game] on their technology shipping in November.

I welcome the head-to-head competition. I think it is going to be really exciting to see how we sort of put some distance graphically and from a fidelity standpoint with third-generation tech against the HD-DVD effort.

Some of these games you are seeing, like a Metal Gear Solid 4 which is a summertime exclusive, plus Resistance 2 – they're tipping the scales at 30, 40, 50GB. And if you tried to do that on HD-DVD, it would be like those old-school floppy [disc] games in your Apple and Commodore [mimics switching disks in and out]. I don't know about you, but I've been there, done that. I'm probably not ever going to go back. Even if you are double-layer on the DVD side, you are nowhere near that size and scale.

So I think you'll see the biggest blockbusters feel and certainly exude the kind of Blu-ray magic and Blu-ray gaming that will become something important for the back half of the year.

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I'm not sure if you guys were responding with the graphical question because the OP brought it up or because you think it's what the interview was implying, but it actually has to do with sales. He says Resistance 2 is one of their biggest game this year and is going up against Gears of War 2. I honestly think Gears is going to wipe the floor sales wise with Resistance, but i also don't think Resistance is their big money maker this year. As far as graphically, it's hard to say. I'm going to say Gears for now, but no one knows much about it yet. Resistance has a lot of modes and gameplay, and I think that will come off slightly graphically for it all to hold up.


 So SOCOM is hitting this summer, Resistance this November, and Killzone 2 somewhere in between.  I've been saying September for over a month now, and it fits right in that timeframe. :)



CliffyB mentioned Gears 2 will be even bloodier, it would be interesting to see how their blood compares with the amazing blood seen in Killzone 2.



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yes i do belive R2 could be better than gear2 graphicly

 uncharted in 3rd person view looked better than gear 2 did so i see why cant R2 look better.

 

making gears2 they are still stuck with 1 dvd so i cant see them fitting loads more content on gears2.

 

i personally thought gears2 was a good game, but after completing game it was boring going through again, R1 was a really long shooter to sift through and the online was amazing.

 

R2 is on my list for sure, although i belive gears2 is more hyped up



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And I think one of the biggest games for us will be Resistance 2. We expect that, in November, to go toe-to-toe against Gears of War 2. It will be our third-generation PS3 product. Insomniac, having shipped Resistance 1, quietly sold a million units. And then Ratchet & Clank last fall. This is the third [game] on their technology shipping in November.

 



 Given that he goes on to discuss sales of RFoM 1 and R&C I think it's pretty clear that he's talking going toe to toe sales wise.  Considering the relative successes of the originals and the installed bases I can't help but feel that GeoW 2 will far oustrip sales of RFoM 2.  

 Graphically I can't say since I haven't personally seen the Resistance 2 footage.



http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=183351
there is a new concept art,all i can say is whooooooooooooooooooo
i now thats not a in-game but realy its amazing



Resistance 2 is going to blow Gears 2 out of the water in terms of graphics. I've already seen things on the PS3 that I don't think can be done on the 360, and if Insomniac is expecting an even bigger upgrade than RFOM to Ratchet and Clank Futures... Gears of War 2 won't be the only title that needs to "look out", Insomniac will be spanking everything else on the PS3 >



From 0 to KICKASS in .stupid seconds.

Heres what'll happen:

Graphics - Resistance 2 > Gears 2
Sales - Gears 2 >Resistance 2
Rating - Resistance 2 > Gears 2
Sound - Who cares?



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