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endimion said:
Wow lol a lot of BS from that origin guy but he is not alone...

PR or not he is right and a lot of you are wrong.

@originwjatever if you still read that
first higher resolution doesn't make anything look better it makes things look sharper but certainly not better.... Yeah sure if you have your nose on the screen it might to some extend... But that's about it especially with video games where no matter how many pixel you add it won't make more detail appear than what the creator created in the first place anyway...
and with real picture or video while in some cases sharpness makes more detail visible which could not be seen at a lower red it actually makes some look worse buy revealing too much of what was there in the first place... I.e. Some old TV shows look horrible in HD because everything looks fake and all the details that were filtered by the lens or the post processing now appears...

ok now that we cleared that more pixel just makes things look sharper and in no way better (it does not improve what's already there)

lets go to the second fact again, you said even on small screens you can see it... True at 1 foot from a PC screen you can see it (if you have a good monitor which more than 80% of people don't have btw) but to be frank I'd rather play or watch video at 720p on a big TV than 4k on a 24" computer screen sitting alone, but that's me... To each their own...
anyway if you are in a living room setting chances are your seating position and the TV position are at a fix point. And in that case the smaller the screen the less you will see the difference and you can argue all you want than is actually a biophysical fact... Yeah some people have better eye sight than other bit unless you are a member of doctor Xavier team you are a liar if you tell me you can see the difference between 1080p/720p after you reach a certain threshold of seating distance to screen size ratio...

anyway now that we physically proved that all other things kept equal the smaller the screen the less you can see the difference...

you have to consider the untrained eye of most non hardcore, the fact that focus is not on pixel count when watching /gaming for most people, and motion is distracting to do pixel count if you don't know what to look for I can guaranty you that on a smaller than 60" TV a shit tone of people if picked randomly wouldn't see the difference in a normal setting, playing/watching normally...

now all that crap being repeated for the X time... I'd much rather see dev focus on that almost irrelevant factor which is resolution and work harder on frame rate or actually make the games look better instead of sharper... Like actual details, lightning, physics, AI, art style.... So yeah that console war and Sony is actually making games look worst than they should... Resolution war is damaging more than improving games... clap clap clap Sony...

Man, how is this Sony fault if they only released a stronger console? MS is doing all the talking on this subject.





duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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... sounds like someone needs to go to Specsavers.



I will say it is more a talking point online, and thus negative word of mouth for the XBox brand. Because the differences are too minimal for the average person to really notice.



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If the roles were reversed he would be singing praises of 1080p.



Thanks jlmurph!

If you can't see the difference then buy either a PS4 or an XB1, but if you can see the difference, buy a PS4.

Sorted.

I'm assuming that everyone in this thread who says they can't tell the difference didn't feel the need to upgrade to a 1080p TV?



 

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this resolution thing will not affect xbox one sales as much as some playstation fans hope it will in fact

I dont think this resolution situation effects more than 10,000 hardcore gamers.

When call of duty advanced warfare comes out looking like sweet sauce on xbox one no one will care and

xbox one sales will shoot through the roof.

No one ever gives me credit for my predictions.

I told you guys a year in this resolution thing will start to close as developers understand the xbox one even more

Just check my previous articles.

Xbox one will be just fine, if not the number one selling console this generation.



Jaxyfoo said:
Am I alone in thinking most normal gaming people have moved on to more a mind set of how fun games like Mario Kart 8, Sunset Overdive, Titanfall, Little big planet 3 are rather than resolution. Yes LOU, Unchartered 4, The Order and Driveclub look to be works of art but overall that won't mean 2015s game of the year won't be some lower resolution Wii U game, that blew everyone away and got 10/10s across the board.

It seems to me that every single month these PR guys come out and insult every single one of us. We spend all that money on GFX cards and new TVs for a reason. These mindless morons at IGN and these PR guys do way more damage with this sitting an inch away from a TV a thousand meters wide. (Anybody noticed how that TV size has grown in inflation btw. When we first heard this junk it was above 32", then above 46", then 50" and now it is 60" - Wow just wow.)

I'm sorry MS but you need to reign in yourPR department to never mention it again. Especially when it changes from game to game. We all saw your E3 this year. We all heard you use the exact words of "All in glorious and beautiful 1080p" I'm sick of being called an idiot every month, so I will stick to my PC, PS4 and Wii U and for the first time ever not own MS's machine. Never think for one minute think it was because of any 720-1080 differance, it was just the fact you decided to insult me every chance you got. And no all the viral marketing in the world won't change the truth either.

It inflated because the tvs have grow. So it can't be a cheap tv, it must be a little above average.

4k will be unoticable in a tv smaller than 200" and no picture above 4Mp will benecessary.





duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

PS4 can't even do 1080p 60fps on watchdogs

watchdogs ps4 is 900p 30fps

so much for 1080p 60fps the ps4 experience LOL!

sony even jumped ahead and said that watchdogs would be 1080p 60fps and then had to delete of a website LOL!

check out this video this guy is hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3BRtU_v3SI&feature=youtu.be

 

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Jega said:

PS4 can't even do 1080p 60fps on watchdogs

watchdogs ps4 is 900p 30fps

so much for 1080p 60fps the ps4 experience LOL!

sony even jumped ahead and said that watchdogs would be 1080p 60fps and then had to delete of a website LOL!

check out this video this guy is hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3BRtU_v3SI&feature=youtu.be

And how much do you laugh at the XBox One for not even being able to keep up with the PS4 versions of games?



LudicrousSpeed said:
He's absolutely right. The only evidence one needs is Killzone 6. Its aall about dat 1080p60 perception. Reality doesnt matter.

Killzone 6?