well if true it should be a 2015 holiday title not before that!
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| Only if they can do it an... | 261 | 28.43% | |
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Yeah, and that isn't enough, which is why trying to get them is pointless unless they expand. No potential PS4/XBO owner will be satisfied with two or three big budget "mature" games a year. Nintendo needs to offer enough exclusive core games to make their lack of third party titles irrelevant in order to satisfy those gamers, and that's just not happening the way Nintendo is now. They don't even have the bandwidth to adequately support one home console.
| spemanig said: I know. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that they need a lot of games like that, not just Metroid or Bayonetta here and there, in order to get those gamers. They need to be able to match the AAA output of competing hardware, but with just exclusives. Otherwise who in their right mind would go to Nintendo for those kinds of games when they get way more on PS4 or XBO? No one used to the PS3/360 library is dropping $300 just for Metroid, no matter how good it is. |
Even in this age, people are often tipped into buying a console by one game. MK8, for example, has pushed hardware.
Wii U doesn't have to match PS4/Xbone's darker output, it just has to offer some of those kind of games to broaden its appeal, so that it doesn't seem E-rated only.
We have Bayonetta 2, Xenoblade X, and The Devil's Third coming out with Fatal Frame hopefully coming soon.. This will be the ''mature'' fix some of you have been searching for the Wii U.
Would you guys really be upset if MONSTER games developed Diddy Kong Racing 2, which was what the original rumor stated? It is very smart for Nintendo to do this if Amiibo is a success. That way kids will recognize Nintendo's other smaller franchises like Dillon while keeping Diddy's reputation in a positive light.
I wouldn't care if it happened, though I feel it would be too soon after Mario Kart 8. But I wonder why people would actually want this, I never thought the original was any kind of masterpiece. Then the OP mentioned a rumor Nintendo bought the character of Timber... I'd rather see them buy Banjo or Conker instead.
For alot of people from the N64 days, DKR was a masterpiece. You still see people today comparing DKR and MK64 arguing about which one is the best. I personally would want this because of the adventure mode that would come with it. Plus I am a huge Diddy Kong fan.
It wouldn't be any old kart racer either. From what this rumor is telling us, you will be riding on the animal buddies and not on actual karts. That right there would be an ambitious take on the racing formula.
curl-6 said:
Even in this age, people are often tipped into buying a console by one game. MK8, for example, has pushed hardware. Wii U doesn't have to match PS4/Xbone's darker output, it just has to offer some of those kind of games to broaden its appeal, so that it doesn't seem E-rated only. |
But they aren't though. Most people don't buy a console for one game. They buy a console BECAUSE of one game, but they know that other games that appeal to them will be on that system. People who bought the Wii U for MK8 bought it knowing that Smash and other Mario games were coming out. They didn't buy it expecting COD and Battlefield for the next few years.
The Wii u would have to match the ps4 and XBO darker output. It doesn't have the cred to only release some "mature" titles and get any of those gamers. They need enough to make the Wii U feel like a viable substitute. Right now, it's not even close. It doesn't need to match them title for title, but it would need enough to make those guys think that the Wii U is a viable alternative for those kind of games. Something like one big mature AAA IP per quarter, would be enough.
| spemanig said: But they aren't though. Most people don't buy a console for one game. They buy a console BECAUSE of one game, but they know that other games that appeal to them will be on that system. People who bought the Wii U for MK8 bought it knowing that Smash and other Mario games were coming out. They didn't buy it expecting COD and Battlefield for the next few years. The Wii u would have to match the ps4 and XBO darker output. It doesn't have the cred to only release some "mature" titles and get any of those gamers. They need enough to make the Wii U feel like a viable substitute. Right now, it's not even close. It doesn't need to match them title for title, but it would need enough to make those guys think that the Wii U is a viable alternative for those kind of games. Something like one big mature AAA IP per quarter, would be enough. |
No it doesn't need to match them; it only needs to provide some semblence of variety in its own right. People can buy a system for Metroid or a dark new IP and still enjoy Mario Kart et al. But having only light-hearted cartoon games gives the console an unattractive image in today's testosterone soaked market.
| curl-6 said: No it doesn't need to match them; it only needs to provide some semblence of variety in its own right. People can buy a system for Metroid or a dark new IP and still enjoy Mario Kart et al. But having only light-hearted cartoon games gives the console an unattractive image. |
No one said they can't enjoy Mario Kart along with Metroid. I'm saying that numbers show they can't live on just Metroid and one or two dark IPs when next door they can get dozens every year. It does need to match them. Absolutely no one who prefers the PS4 or XBO is going to give that up for what is the sahara desert of mature IP, no matter how good those two glasses of water are. They DO need to match them, at least a little. Four "big" dark games a year is a fraction of what they offer, but that's enough, especially when they're all exclusive.
Hire 3rd party studios do create these new "hardcore" Nintendo IPs if they don't have the bandwith to do it themselves, but get it done, and do it now. I've always wanted to see an open world hack'n'slash action game. (basically an open world GOW/DMC) Hire a developer like that and have that be a new IP for Nintendo. Maybe another can be an exclusive deal like with Bayo2. Another can be a "hardcore" online multiplayer shooter, but with it's own twist. Another can be a driving fighting game like Mad Max. Done. Four games. One year.
spemanig said:
Hire 3rd party studios do create these new "hardcore" Nintendo IPs if they don't have the bandwith to do it themselves, but get it done, and do it now. I've always wanted to see an open world hack'n'slash action game. (basically an open world GOW/DMC) Hire a developer like that and have that be a new IP for Nintendo. Maybe another can be an exclusive deal like with Bayo2. Another can be a "hardcore" online multiplayer shooter, but with it's own twist. Another can be a driving fighting game like Mad Max. Done. Four games. One year. |
Gamers wouldn't have to "give up" PS/Xbox though; Many Wii owners also had a PS3/360, Wii U could also sell as a second console.
As for hiring third parties to do it, that's a start, but let's face it, they're extremely unlikely to deliver the kind of quality Retro can. They need that Nintendo level of polish.