I hear it is a great game, but isn't it also a very short game with simple premise and controls?  I am not knocking it, sometimes simple games are the best.  I am just saying that in terms of scope, this doesn't seem to live up to even a mid-tier game.  It would seem they have a way to go to get to that level.

It's got online integration and things to it which is far more ambitious than flower was and elevates it quite a bit. It's a few hours long, but I grew up on games that were a few hours long and for the most part they're a better quality than most much longer games.

But seriously, few games can come close to the emotion felt playing Journey.

I'm sick to death of it, It was nice when it first started but now the market is floaded!

Hell no, the indie boom is just getting started. It's a lot easier to spot a bad indie game from a mile away than it is to spot a bad AAA game, because the big-money publishers have giant advertising budgets to trick people into thinking their games are good.

The hardware companies also know a good indie game from a bad one, usually. Think Sony would have shown No Man's Sky at E3 if it looked like trash? Think Nintendo would have kept showing Shovel Knight over and over for the past 8 months if it wasn't going to be one of the best games released on either of their platforms this year?

Also, Flower and Journey were published by Sony. C'mon now.

Thing is bad/mediocre/shovelware games have existed since the dawn of gaming. In fact, they've outnumbered the good games on every system since the dawn of gaming. The fact that some of these bad games are small indies now makes little difference. In fact, it actually clears up retail space for bigger 'better" titles because now most of the small ones are digital only.

3,800 titles were released worldwide for PS2, 1,440 titles were released on the Super Famicom in Japan. There are certainly not over a thousand games worth playing between the two of them. Maybe six hundred.

Just like all the utter dross the shareholder run companies pump out. ;)

It's interesting that there is such an irrational hatred of indie games. I think people get confused between retro styled games (which do for the most part tend to be indie) and games made by developers with very limited resources and not having to answer to a publisher or shareholder.

I miss Mid Tier Games of Playstation 1 & 2 Era,

I suspect Indies make that category of games even harder to breath.

It seems indie has gone stale now, devs seem to be pumping out the same crap as everyone else. AAA is no different, I want mid tier back.

no b/c there not all in my face like AAA games on the net they also so far seem to offer great SP experience at a low cost

Depends how you define indie title to be fair.

Most high profile indie games are being snapped up by a major manufacturer through exclusivity deals etc.