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This thing seems worthless to me. I have vita games, just no vita. And some may work but I want them all too. And now is also pointless to me. And being to lazy to unplug a console is not reason to give Sony $100. So I am going to get a ps4 next year (ps3 still good) and maybe a vita if the price goes down again.



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V-r0cK said:
2 Questions that I have if anybody can answer for me just for clarification:

1) I can log onto my PS account and redownload and play all the PS1 games i've already purchased on my PS3 onto the Vita mem card and play it on the PSTV yes?

2) Can I play onlinie against/with other players that gamers that's using the Vita or PSTV (ie. I play together with my gf on the PSTV while she's on her Vita?)


can be yes 

if the PS1 GAME HAS psp OR PSvita compatability than yes

as for the 2nd yes it supports ad-hoc and multi-player



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joeorc said:

Wait over priced? How the hell is it over priced vs' the other box'es also being the same price as $99.00 hell you just pointed out fire tv, and yet the Playstation TV is the same price as the amazon fire TV with the fire tv  game controller !

Also in 7 years  total sale through Apple TV has sold a grand total of 25 million units world wide, thats even with Apple being the top leader in that market even over chrome cast and fire TV, and you really want to sit there and think Sony is not going to do well in that part of the market?

You call over priced games? really? there is many $5.00 or less games on Playstation Network, and more is on the way because of indies is pretty much all thats on the way for the playstation TV and the PSVita right? no real game's right?

You have your Opinion and i have mine but i think before you are so quick to write off this unit, i think we would best be wise to wait on its performance in the coming year to see how well it will or would not do.

again:

 

"You can get a 360 or PS3 for 139(Probably 99 on Black Firiday and holidays). Those simply outclass PSTV for the less than 400 "

Again, that would most likely be $99.00 for the xbox360, but for the PS3 if you are talking Used maybe,and as for to ouclass a $99.00 TV Micro-Game Box duh? but the fact these other console's are not what this Micro-Game console is Targeting , this box is not only going to be with the console isle but also with the TV box's section along where Amazon Tv , and Apple TV and Roku, and Chrome Cast. the fact this TV box is more geard as a Game console vs those other tV box'es is a reason why that maybe its offering something those other box'es do not or not able to offer, Better Gaming experiences.


iOS and Android games traditionally don't go up to 39.99 in value.  That is very expensive.  Being priced at what Apple is priced for a not nearly as strong content ecosystem is over priced.  

I really don't think Sony will do well in that market.  They haven't done nearly as well in Laptops, cell phones, tablets, Personal media devices either. They don't have enough content to rival iOS and itunes period.  

I don't need to wait.  Sony can call this thing whatever it wants.  Micro Console. TV set top box.  If buying it for games is one of the desired outcomes they come up short just like Vita minus alot of the exclusive good games.  I used to think it could work in developing markets but expensive memory and mostly online game library PSNow style stuff wont be appealing there.   It will not be recieiving support in terms of new games from Sony going forward. So it fails at games in any meaningful and impactful way which is supposed to be it's differentiator from it's competitors.  



nitekrawler1285 said:


iOS and Android games traditionally don't go up to 39.99 in value.  That is very expensive.  Being priced at what Apple is priced for a not nearly as strong content ecosystem is over priced.  

I really don't think Sony will do well in that market.  They haven't done nearly as well in Laptops, cell phones, tablets, Personal media devices either. They don't have enough content to rival iOS and itunes period.  

I don't need to wait.  Sony can call this thing whatever it wants.  Micro Console. TV set top box.  If buying it for games is one of the desired outcomes they come up short just like Vita minus alot of the exclusive good games.  I used to think it could work in developing markets but expensive memory and mostly online game library PSNow style stuff wont be appealing there.   It will not be recieiving support in terms of new games from Sony going forward. So it fails at games in any meaningful and impactful way which is supposed to be it's differentiator from it's competitors.  

1: Apple and Amazon do not have Game's that run the upwards cost of a AAA game also, and for one unlike Apple or Amazon, its box'es arenot mainly a Game console 1st!

While playstation TV is, you are looking at this as trying to compete with Apple and Amazon's paradigm, which is not the case; Sony is shifting their topset box in to the Gaming paradigm 1st before media streaming, NOT MAINLY A MEDIA SERVER 1ST GAMING 2ND.

2: Not nearly as strong of a content ECOSYSTEM?

maybe not in streaming Video, or sheer number of App's, but as for a "Gaming Centric Ecosystem" Apple and Amazon are not as Strong as Playstation when it comes to Gaming, if it was Apple and Amazon would Have a Game Console by now! Which they do not have a Game Console. I would love to see them compete in this market against  Nintendo and Microsoft and Sony and see how well they would do!

"I really don't think Sony will do well in that market.  They haven't done nearly as well in Laptops, cell phones, tablets, Personal media devices either. They don't have enough content to rival iOS and itunes period.  "

Again you are trying to put this as a vs' on Apple's and Amazon's  terms instead of Sony's and this Topset Box is not based on what Amazon and Apple are mainly doing with the Box'es they produce. the Type of Market Design for the Top set Box they produce not for the kind of Top set Box Sony is going for...Despite what you listed, Cell phones are over 10 million a sales Quarter, if that's bad number's than Wow, yes its no Samsung or Apple, but selling 10 million xperias per sales Quarter is in my opinion are far from not doing well.

This is not about laptops, Cellphones, tablets or PMP players, this is about launching another livingroom or bed room "Playstation Game console" and the fact its not a mobile playstation but a living room or Bed room game console at that .

The PS1, PS2 AND PS3 AND NOW THE PS4 HAVE ALL DONE GOOD, ASIDE FROM THE MOBILE PLAYSTATION WHICH THE PLAYSTATION TV IS NOT, Trying to point out that it would not do very well is fine and all that's your opinion, but i for one think it may do very well and with Sony's market expansion into china with game console's the Playstation TV, may have a very good chance to do quite well due to its price point and functionality from the get Go.

" It will not be recieiving support in terms of new games from Sony going forward"

where did Sony say that for playstation TV?

They said that less 1st party game's for PSVita

There was no talk about playstation TV because its not launched yet in all markets in the world anyway. Like i stated before the less 1st party Games was about the PSVita! not about playstation TV, and How do we know for sure that Sony 1st party  PSVita and has not shifted  1st party PSVita in house development to the Playstation TV from PSVita?

we don't but if this device has a very high chance of not doing well , why release it? why spend the money to even ship it?



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

ktay95 said:
BHR-3 said:
considering buying this just to play uncharted GA hopefully its compatible

It's not 😔

The game is filled with needless touch controls. 

Spoiler

The final boss is all touch fucking bullshit that ruined the entire fucking game. WHAT A FUCKING JOKE I WANT TO MURDER THEM ALL!!!!!!!!

They could always patch it to include pressing a direction on the analog stick instead for those using a Vita TV instead.  Doesn't seem like it'd be that difficult.

I finished the game on crushing.  No misses.  I'll forever remember the quote "Like that rock, taste good?"  Pretty cool video, but the touch screen requirement was disappointing.



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Pretty much all the games I actually want to play on vita are not supported by playstation tv (at least for the moment because of the back touchscreen apparently), so my interest has plummeted at this point.



I'm going to get a PS TV and as soon as ECFW game becomes available, I'm going to download it and have access to all my PSP and PSX games. ECFW is emulated custom firmware. The Vita hasn't been downgraded, but through the PSP emulator and certain games, you can atleast use it like a CFW PSP.



joeorc said:

 Sony is shifting their topset box in to the Gaming paradigm 1st before media streaming, NOT MAINLY A MEDIA SERVER 1ST GAMING 2ND.

2: Not nearly as strong of a content ECOSYSTEM?

maybe not in streaming Video, or sheer number of App's, but as for a "Gaming Centric Ecosystem" Apple and Amazon are not as Strong as Playstation when it comes to Gaming, if it was Apple and Amazon would Have a Game Console by now! Which they do not have a Game Console. I would love to see them compete in this market against  Nintendo and Microsoft and Sony and see how well they would do!

"I really don't think Sony will do well in that market.  They haven't done nearly as well in Laptops, cell phones, tablets, Personal media devices either. They don't have enough content to rival iOS and itunes period.  "

Again you are trying to put this as a vs' on Apple's and Amazon's  terms instead of Sony's and this Topset Box is not based on what Amazon and Apple are mainly doing with the Box'es they produce. the Type of Market Design for the Top set Box they produce not for the kind of Top set Box Sony is going for...Despite what you listed, Cell phones are over 10 million a sales Quarter, if that's bad number's than Wow, yes its no Samsung or Apple, but selling 10 million xperias per sales Quarter is in my opinion are far from not doing well.

This is not about laptops, Cellphones, tablets or PMP players, this is about launching another livingroom or bed room "Playstation Game console" and the fact its not a mobile playstation but a living room or Bed room game console at that .

The PS1, PS2 AND PS3 AND NOW THE PS4 HAVE ALL DONE GOOD, ASIDE FROM THE MOBILE PLAYSTATION WHICH THE PLAYSTATION TV IS NOT, Trying to point out that it would not do very well is fine and all that's your opinion, but i for one think it may do very well and with Sony's market expansion into china with game console's the Playstation TV, may have a very good chance to do quite well due to its price point and functionality from the get Go.

" It will not be recieiving support in terms of new games from Sony going forward"

where did Sony say that for playstation TV?

They said that less 1st party game's for PSVita

There was no talk about playstation TV because its not launched yet in all markets in the world anyway. Like i stated before the less 1st party Games was about the PSVita! not about playstation TV, and How do we know for sure that Sony 1st party  PSVita and has not shifted  1st party PSVita in house development to the Playstation TV from PSVita?

we don't but if this device has a very high chance of not doing well , why release it? why spend the money to even ship it?

Even if they aren't fighting Apple and Amazon's paradigm they will fail at games.  How do I know this? Vita has already failed with it's game library. So gaming console first then it still fails. If users want AAA games then they will buy a console that regularly gets them.  iOS actually gets far more exclusive content from larger publishers and more gaming content in general than Vita. iOS and Android got CoD and GTA last year.  Can Vita say the same?

Apps and Video content on Vita is far less than that of iOS as welll.  Media server first and it still fails too.

Playstation TV and Vita are the same hardware.  So no games for one means no games for the other.

Mandatory very pricey memory and streaming content are two very large foes to developing nations whom don't have the best bandwith or highest incomes. 

Please refrain from quoting me and sharing your hopeful delusions about the device going forward.  It's obvious we simply don't agree and will not agree.  

 



nitekrawler1285 said:
joeorc said:

 Sony is shifting their topset box in to the Gaming paradigm 1st before media streaming, NOT MAINLY A MEDIA SERVER 1ST GAMING 2ND.

2: Not nearly as strong of a content ECOSYSTEM?

maybe not in streaming Video, or sheer number of App's, but as for a "Gaming Centric Ecosystem" Apple and Amazon are not as Strong as Playstation when it comes to Gaming, if it was Apple and Amazon would Have a Game Console by now! Which they do not have a Game Console. I would love to see them compete in this market against  Nintendo and Microsoft and Sony and see how well they would do!

"I really don't think Sony will do well in that market.  They haven't done nearly as well in Laptops, cell phones, tablets, Personal media devices either. They don't have enough content to rival iOS and itunes period.  "

Again you are trying to put this as a vs' on Apple's and Amazon's  terms instead of Sony's and this Topset Box is not based on what Amazon and Apple are mainly doing with the Box'es they produce. the Type of Market Design for the Top set Box they produce not for the kind of Top set Box Sony is going for...Despite what you listed, Cell phones are over 10 million a sales Quarter, if that's bad number's than Wow, yes its no Samsung or Apple, but selling 10 million xperias per sales Quarter is in my opinion are far from not doing well.

This is not about laptops, Cellphones, tablets or PMP players, this is about launching another livingroom or bed room "Playstation Game console" and the fact its not a mobile playstation but a living room or Bed room game console at that .

The PS1, PS2 AND PS3 AND NOW THE PS4 HAVE ALL DONE GOOD, ASIDE FROM THE MOBILE PLAYSTATION WHICH THE PLAYSTATION TV IS NOT, Trying to point out that it would not do very well is fine and all that's your opinion, but i for one think it may do very well and with Sony's market expansion into china with game console's the Playstation TV, may have a very good chance to do quite well due to its price point and functionality from the get Go.

" It will not be recieiving support in terms of new games from Sony going forward"

where did Sony say that for playstation TV?

They said that less 1st party game's for PSVita

There was no talk about playstation TV because its not launched yet in all markets in the world anyway. Like i stated before the less 1st party Games was about the PSVita! not about playstation TV, and How do we know for sure that Sony 1st party  PSVita and has not shifted  1st party PSVita in house development to the Playstation TV from PSVita?

we don't but if this device has a very high chance of not doing well , why release it? why spend the money to even ship it?

Even if they aren't fighting Apple and Amazon's paradigm they will fail at games.  How do I know this? Vita has already failed with it's game library. So gaming console first then it still fails. If users want AAA games then they will buy a console that regularly gets them.  iOS actually gets far more exclusive content from larger publishers and more gaming content in general than Vita. iOS and Android got CoD and GTA last year.  Can Vita say the same?

Apps and Video content on Vita is far less than that of iOS as welll.  Media server first and it still fails too.

Playstation TV and Vita are the same hardware.  So no games for one means no games for the other.

Mandatory very pricey memory and streaming content are two very large foes to developing nations whom don't have the best bandwith or highest incomes. 

Please refrain from quoting me and sharing your hopeful delusions about the device going forward.  It's obvious we simply don't agree and will not agree.  

 

Hopeful delusions ? 

That's it keep up that Arrogance, because I'm going to enjoy watching you devour lots of little small chick sized crow. Its this Arrogance is what has people such as your self get to Enjoy the taste of Failure. You are right we simply will not agree, but let's see how this develops. I cannot wait to see how this plays out. Because if I'm wrong I will gladly admit it on the forum, the Question now would you?



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

Sony has to make a "low cost console that allows you to use netflix etc." marketing about PSVita TV, and it may be a success.



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