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narj said:

My friend who lives in South America says nearly all stores in his city sell all 3 major consoles already chipped to play copies and buying them this way is often cheaper than going to official stores and buying an unchipped one! Then he buys games for $5 each, lucky *ucker!

The chipped Wii he recently bought was $350 /£175 and he got 10 games for it which cost him $50.

He has several hundred PS2 games many which he has never even played.

I suppose when you are paying the equivalent of £2.50 per game it isn't so important to get much play out of them.

 As for virtual console games, you can already play nearly all the games on xbox live arcade for free using MAME and most Nintendo games from NES to N64 are playable on your PC using emulators.

I have over 1000 MAME roms, but it is nice to be able to compete with others on the Xbox live high score table which unfortunately the Wii doesn't have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I livein argentina, insouth america lol.

and yes it is like that.

but i buy original games though.

edit: btw its worse to pirate games, because you end not enjoying them. because they are so cheap that all the games are boring. i know how that feels. that happened to me when i pirated the ps1.(on the ps1 days of course).

ben kenobi you are right systems are more expensive here. but for too main reasons:

-VAT in SA is very high.

-we dont have official distributors. so we have to import the systems from the US.

hereyou have some prices.

DSlite : 800 pesos(about 265 dollars)

PSP:1200 pesos(about 400 dollars)

wii: 1600 pesos(about 550 dolars)

ps3: i better not tell you this one.

thats why i only have  a GCN and a ds.

and ps3 games cost 120 dollars.

wii games between 70 and 100 dollars

and ds games between 40  and 80 dollars


WOW those prices are high!!!

 

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thats what i have to pay for games.

thats why so many people pirate here.

salaries are lower than in US but games are more expensive.

and remember people here earns money in pesos not in dollars.

so its even bigger the difference.

btw for people that what to know the ps3 price here is about:

5500 pesos( about 1850 dollars)



 

 

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dpmnymkrprez said:
Lingyis said:

well essentially you're saying you want free pirated games. right?  

No, I was talking about technology/how far it has become, I know in some instances that out of date things have no copyright, besides I have a friend that has an old xbox, and he has emulator games on it.like a ton, he said his friend put a chip in it or something and there are all these old games on there for free.its crazy!

No, not crazy - piracy.

Don't get me wrong, we all do it, once or twice, or a bajillion times, but it is.

Plus copyright takes upwards of 50 years after death.



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Damn and we are complaining about price cuts..........................



yep but remember that it is basically because we dont have official distributor and the VAT on south american countries is pretty high. and we dont have an official distributor thanks to piracy lol. it is a vicious circle



 

 

narj said:
yep but remember that it is basically because we dont have official distributor and the VAT on south american countries is pretty high. and we dont have an official distributor thanks to piracy lol. it is a vicious circle

I guess it is hard to believe becasue we have agencies to inforce that we as americans(like myself) never really think about it, Im surprised the makers themselves don't somehow become a distributor, Im sure they have enough money for it.



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they have, but they dont see our countris as a market. the only to companies that have official distibutors here are Sony and Microsoft. but only for hardware and their games. if you wanna buy 3rd parties. you have to pay a lot more. i think that in all latin america companies could sell at least 20 million consoles. but the problem is the piracy. SA goverments dont care about piracy so unless they do something about it. none game companies will come here. and yes i think they have enough money to be a distributor



 

 

yeah many countries outside USA pirate because they get ripped off so easily. On another note, pirating VC games would probably be quite simple (without even modifying your console). When you copy a VC game from an SD card to your Wii, the Wii sends a request to Nintendo HQ asking if you've bought this game. The only thing you'd need to do is have your router forward all those requests to your own personal server, which would then send back the "OK" of course, you would have to apply some packet sniffing in order to work out how the protocol worked, and there'd probably be some form of encryption in the sending (if it's sent over SSL it'd likely be impossible). So depending on how well Nintendo implement this protocol it may be difficult. As for actual games, you'd need a mod chip. I don''t usually chip my consoles as a rule since it voids the warranty, but as soon as there's a mod chip that allows for Wii homebrew (the WiiKey only allows GC homebrew) then I'm all over it. Personally I'm getting sick of Nintendo screwing us over (still no release date for Super Paper Mario) so I wouldn't feel that guilty about pirating some games.



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Very interesting, I wonder if the same is for India, the economy over there is booming, as a matter of fact I just turned down an offer over there but they have the money, i wonder if piracy is an issue there, and that is why they havent distributed/launched? Ps is that true pirated games are like 1-5 bucks??? If that is true how many games does the average person own overseas??100 plus or more for each system??



omgwtfbbq said:
yeah many countries outside USA pirate because they get ripped off so easily. On another note, pirating VC games would probably be quite simple (without even modifying your console). When you copy a VC game from an SD card to your Wii, the Wii sends a request to Nintendo HQ asking if you've bought this game. The only thing you'd need to do is have your router forward all those requests to your own personal server, which would then send back the "OK" of course, you would have to apply some packet sniffing in order to work out how the protocol worked, and there'd probably be some form of encryption in the sending (if it's sent over SSL it'd likely be impossible). So depending on how well Nintendo implement this protocol it may be difficult. As for actual games, you'd need a mod chip. I don''t usually chip my consoles as a rule since it voids the warranty, but as soon as there's a mod chip that allows for Wii homebrew (the WiiKey only allows GC homebrew) then I'm all over it. Personally I'm getting sick of Nintendo screwing us over (still no release date for Super Paper Mario) so I wouldn't feel that guilty about pirating some games.

Silly question but maybe you can help, If my memory on my wii starts to get full, are you saying that I can save my downloaded VC games on my memory card and download more and I am not limited??? If so how do I do this? or is it in the directions??

I am the type of guy that is impatient and when i got it on launch day i ripped open the box tossed the directions and plugged and playd(not really but this is my attitude)Should i read the directions??



omgwtfbbq said:
When you copy a VC game from an SD card to your Wii, the Wii sends a request to Nintendo HQ asking if you've bought this game.

Have you any proof it works this way, or is it just guess work? Cause I'm pretty sure you don't need to be connected to restore backups from SD.



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