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Whose going to take Silver (2014)

Wii U 89 67.42%
 
Xbox One 18 13.64%
 
3DS 16 12.12%
 
Playstation Vita 4 3.03%
 
Playstation Vita TV 1 0.76%
 
Playstation Camera 2 1.52%
 
Kinect 2.0 2 1.52%
 
Total:132
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Quality has no place in an objective debate.

Some people dislike Nintendo's games, to them they are in poor quality.


Actually in this kind of debate it's required. WOuld you rather have 50 Sonic 06s or 10 TLoU? 



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Smear-Gel said:
"Nintendo has now like 5
highly anticipated games and maybe
a handful more in the next years."

People always forget that

1) The indie scene is more important this gen than ever before

2) Ninty and the Wii U are now as favourable with them as the PS4. Tonnes of great indie games are in the pipeline for Wii U, and many are exclusive.

Shame MK8 is the only game that the Nintendo has tried advertising so far, in contrast Sony put indies on stage last year at E3/



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amak11 said:
vivster said:

 I just told you loads of 3rd party games. High profile exclusives like Watch Dogs, Destiny or COD will even sell a lot consoles on their own.

A console is an investment. People buy consoles because of the prospect of more games in the future. Nintendo has now like 5 highly anticipated games and maybe a handful more in the next years. PS4/X1 will have guaranteed support of hundreds of games for the next 5 years. That's what they're selling on now. That's why PS4 sells that crazy, That's why X1 will get a major boost this year.

A few anticipated games on Nintendo's side will not make them suddenly to a sales leader.


Which is why we are at odds end on this. Frankly we both bring good points to this so there is no point in continuing this. Agree to disagree. Mainly cause my philosophy is exclusives are what sells consoles and mark a consoles true value, where you believe having a large quantity is better. Quality over quantity, better 10 great games than 40 good games

Quantity vs quality is irrelevant(even though all of the games I mentioned are of high quality, which is why they are highly anticipated). It's about what sells. Wii U will not outsell the other major competitors with just a few exclusives that only appeal to a niche audience.



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amak11 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Quality has no place in an objective debate.

Some people dislike Nintendo's games, to them they are in poor quality.


Actually in this kind of debate it's required. WOuld you rather have 50 Sonic 06s or 10 TLoU? 

Strawman Fallacy. If you want to be fair every game is either Sonic 06 or TLoU to you.



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Experimental42 said:
Smear-Gel said:
Watchdogs moved more PS4's than MK8 moved Wii U's.


No.

You know this because?

PS4 201,630 (+64%) 8,079,432
WiiU 187,028 (+489%) 6,290,941
1
Watch Dogs (PS4)
Ubisoft, Action
1,856,387 1,856,387 1
2
Mario Kart 8 (WiiU)
Nintendo, Racing
1,122,658 1,122,658 1



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"Shame MK8 is the only game that
the Nintendo has tried advertising
so far, in contrast Sony put indies on
stage last year at E3" (man I wish the quote function would work on my phone.)

Nintendo HAS advertised thier indies. And will likely do it again at E3.



vivster said:

If I go by VGC forum all it needs is a price cut, which is not a game ;)

Oh, so you weren't being serious. That's nice to know.



Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
amak11 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Quality has no place in an objective debate.

Some people dislike Nintendo's games, to them they are in poor quality.


Actually in this kind of debate it's required. WOuld you rather have 50 Sonic 06s or 10 TLoU? 

Strawman Fallacy. If you want to be fair every game is either Sonic 06 or TLoU to you.


Well I made a simple observation.  I'm using two ends of the spectrum here. You can have a lot of in-between games but have them never live up to the hype of their highly anticipated counterparts. 

On a second note, Wii U Mario Kart 8 sold better individually on the Wii U than Watch_Dogs did indivually compared on other platforms minua PS4 ofc. So it's not like the market isn't there for games on Wii U, it just means people are getting what they wanted. 



Smear-Gel said:
"Shame MK8 is the only game that
the Nintendo has tried advertising
so far, in contrast Sony put indies on
stage last year at E3" (man I wish the quote function would work on my phone.)

Nintendo HAS advertised thier indies. And will likely do it again at E3.

Indies such as?

Don't mistakenly call "AAs" indies either.

Nintendo's done such a good job advertising their indies that I haven't even heard about them.



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amak11 said:

Well I made a simple observation.  I'm using two ends of the spectrum here. You can have a lot of in-between games but have them never live up to the hype of their highly anticipated counterparts. 

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Fallacies of presumption fail to prove the conclusion by assuming the conclusion in the proof. Fallacies of weak inference fail to prove the conclusion due to insufficient evidence. Fallacies of distraction fail to prove the conclusion due to irrelevant evidence, like emotion. Fallacies of ambiguity fail to prove the conclusion due to vagueness in words, phrases, or grammar.[5]

Some fallacies are committed intentionally (to manipulate or persuade by deception), others unintentionally due to carelessness or ignorance.

Quality has no place in an objective debate.

amak11 said:

Well I made a simple observation.  I'm using two ends of the spectrum here. You can have a lot of in-between games but have them never live up to the hype of their highly anticipated counterparts. 

On a second note, Wii U Mario Kart 8 sold better individually on the Wii U than Watch_Dogs did indivually compared on other platforms minua PS4 ofc. So it's not like the market isn't there for games on Wii U, it just means people are getting what they wanted. 

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

PS4 201,630 (+64%) 8,079,432
WiiU 187,028 (+489%) 6,290,941
1
Watch Dogs (PS4)
Ubisoft, Action
1,856,387 1,856,387 1
2
Mario Kart 8 (WiiU)
Nintendo, Racing
1,122,658 1,122,658 1

 

Unless ofc your definition of better is that it is on the Wii U.



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