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Forums - Gaming - 79% Of Gamers Say They Won't Buy Cheaper $399 Xbox One

Aura7541 on 04 June 2014

It's a shame that this survey was nearly done correctly. Had the guy not committed sampling bias, I would actually take this survey seriously.



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BMaker11 on 04 June 2014
kowenicki said:
BMaker11 said:
sabastian said:
Those stats are horrid. But as someone else pointed out, it was with less that 1000 gamers surveyed, so yeh.

As I explained to LudicrousSpeed, 927 is more than adequate for an accurate survey. Population of 80M only needs 385 responses to be within 5% margin of error. Gallup "only" uses 2800 responses to gauge the opinions of 200M people and they're within 2% margin of error.

Awesome, thanks for clarifying.  41% of 360 said yes to this... thats incredible.  So, even before any more price cuts, 41% of  360 owners will buy the ONE.  Thats huge.  Amazing.

Seriously.  You did notice it said "are you MORE likely to buy at this price"  what was the percentage before?  For all we know it was 50% were likely to buy already, so a 21% increase takes us to 60%.  The survey is bogus, the question weak and the results flawed as a result.

Sample size is irrelevant if the question is a badly worded one.

Thanks.

First off, that's not what I was responding to. He called the survey into question because they surveyed less than 1000 people and I showed that 927 is a more than adequate enough sample size.

Secondly, the wording is fine. It's not asking you "are you likely to buy a XBone?", it's asking "are you more likely to buy at this price?". Only 21% said yes, meaning the price cut is only having a small effect. It's not saying that XBone will drop down to 21% marketshare. It doesnt say that 41% of 360 owners will buy an XBone. It's saying that the price cut isn't that big a deal. It's not that hard to understand.

Just like I said, don't like the statistics, so you attack the survey



DarkWraith on 04 June 2014

when 59% of your previous/current customers are not interested in buying your new product, you have a real problem.



Sixteenvolt420 on 04 June 2014

I know i won't. Always been more partial to Sony, myself.



CommonNinja on 04 June 2014

Well I would like to know out of all the 79% that said no, how many of them already own a PS4.  Because if you already own 1 next gen console, there is not really that much incentive to go out and spend 400$ for another just to play a few exclusives.

Either way, Xbox One will sell a lot more units at a 400$ price tag than at 500$.  Even if it is only 21% of gamers that will, you have got to realize that 21% sitll equates to a lot of people.  

As for 360 owners, I think a lot of them (such as my cousin) are waiting for Halo 5 before making the jump to X1.



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Aura7541 on 04 June 2014
DarkWraith said:
when 59% of your previous/current customers are not interested in buying your new product, you have a real problem.

And this is while Sony is still supporting the PS3 while MS is basically leaving out 360 to die.



BMaker11 on 04 June 2014
DarkWraith said:
when 59% of your previous/current customers are not interested in buying your new product, you have a real problem.

As I explained to Kowen, it's not that they aren't interested in the product. It's that they aren't interested at that price.

I want a 72" TV. But at $3500, I'm not likely to buy it. At $900, I'm likely to buy it. It wasn't a matter of if I would absolutely or absolutely not buy the TV. People are confusing the survey into thinking it says "will you ever buy an Xbone?", and that simply isn't true. It's just asking your interest in relation to the price. 59% said they don't care for it at that price. Doesn't mean only 41% of 360 owners will ever buy an XBone.



Mystro-Sama on 04 June 2014

I'd buy it if I wasn't planning to get a Wii U.



Aura7541 on 04 June 2014
kowenicki said:
BMaker11 said:

First off, that's not what I was responding to. He called the survey into question because they surveyed less than 1000 people and I showed that 927 is a more than adequate enough sample size.

Secondly, the wording is fine. It's not asking you "are you likely to buy a XBone?", it's asking "are you more likely to buy at this price?". Only 21% said yes, meaning the price cut is only having a small effect. It's not saying that XBone will drop down to 21% marketshare. It doesnt say that 41% of 360 owners will buy an XBone. It's saying that the price cut isn't that big a deal. It's not that hard to understand.

Just like I said, don't like the statistics, so you attack the survey


Yes, its asks are you MORE likely.... and 41% of 360 owners are now MORE likely.  It may have been 50% before so now its would be 70%.

How can you not see this?

Im not attacking the survey so much as attacking the question and the interpretation of the results.

The question is one thing, the interpretation in the article and this thread is something else.

 

The survey asks if consumers are more likely to buy an X1 at $399. 43% of 360 users have not bought a PS4 or X1 because of price. The results showed that 41% of those 360 owners are now more likely to buy an X1 at $399 while the other 59% are still not interested in buying it.



LudicrousSpeed on 04 June 2014
BMaker11 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Shit, MS might as well pack it up. Without those 732 sales from readers of "DealNews", the gen is all but lost already. brb going to sell my xbone for a PC, apparently this survey says its the best.

Funny, because apparently, on a population of 80M (Xbox 360 userbase), you only need a sample size of 385 to be within a 5% margin of error. The survey sample size in the OP is almost 2.5x larger than what's needed to be within a good MoE on the population of what the 360 is at.

http://www.calculator.net/sample-size-calculator.html?type=1&cl=95&ci=5&ps=80000000&x=0&y=0

I always love it when people see statistics they don't like then sarcastically say "they only surveyed X amount of people" as if you need some exorbitant amount of people to have an accurate statistic. Do you know that Gallup, the company that tracks presidential elections, "only" uses a sample size of about 2,800, which accounts for the opinions of the the little under 200M registered voters (actual voter turnout was 126M in 2012) and is at a 2% margin of error? Guess their numbers are bogus because they didn't survey 100,000 people, right?

@bold and I always love when people go off on some tangent completely irrelevant to the post they are quoting. I don't give a crap about their sample size or the accuracy of their poll, my post was only mocking the relevance of it. Or lack thereof. I don't like or dislike these statistics. They are completely meaningless. And funny you'd champion Gallup, given their accuracy issues lately. Either way cool rant, bro.