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Will the tablet/smartphone replace consoles?

Yes 55 15.80%
 
No 238 68.39%
 
Huh??? 50 14.37%
 
Total:343
greenmedic88 said:

The Linux support by developers will follow broad market user support.

Do you see that happening? Realistically?

Yes, computer geeks love the idea of Linux. Open source people will champion the concept and its advantages. But the general consumer public simply doesn't care about it and that's what drives adoption and growth. 

Every single thing the "general consumer public" do on Windows they can do on Ubuntu. I'd even argue that it's a better looking and more user friendly OS. 

Ubuntu is for anyone including your grandma.

So stop being lazy, download and install it  ;)



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Landguy said:
flint said:

Never totally, games need something more tactile than a touch screen and more real estate than 11 inches once you reach a certain level of depth. If, hell when tablets match console power however soon that may be, covering half the screen to press vauge buttons is gonna hide those lovely graphics. If a tablet ships with a controller and they push the fact it can plug into a TV then it's just a console anyway and you've gone full circle. Sitting infront of a fifty inch LED with a controller that fits firmly in your hand, or with your VR headset on ;p it's just a more fulfilling experience, plus that same box can stream Netflix and the like to your big screen, they just fill different slots.

Using "Airplay" you can watch whatever is on you tablet on your big screen TV.  Just add a Bluetooth controller and BAM!  you have the exact experience that you are talking about.  You don't have to be limited to the tablet controls or screen size.  This is a current capability on the ipads, not sure about other tablets.

I know all that, what i'm saying is that that is turning it essentially a console, as that is the only way to play deeper games on the device, espeically if they sell it as such. Having one single device seems like it would work on paper, but having more than one is well within most peoples budgets and can be fare more convinent. Are you a ipad fad or did you just not read thoughly?



Buying order: Switch, better pc

as long as there is no physical buttons to play the games on the mobile,, then it will never happen.



kitler53 said:
greenmedic88 said:
kitler53 said:
i had to pay $500 for a 16 gb ipad. to upgrade to 32 gb adds another hundred. true AAA games won't come to ipad without a streaming service like playstation now. even then, ipad needs to get a screen share from ipad to the tv be easy (and without requiring a "console" like apple tv) to really make it viable. evevn then they would have to build up a first party line up.

i'm not saying we will always have console but i don't think apple can do it alone. playstation now, however, could have a very bright future.

I forgot to list that. 

Local storage is one of the biggest handicaps mobile currently has. 

Apple could fix that in a flash with a Micro SD port, backpedaling on their entire pricing structure in the process, which is why they'll never do it.

Charging a $100 for a 16 to 32GB storage upgrade and another $100 for a 32 to 64GB upgrade has gone beyond ridiculous with current solid state memory prices being a fraction of what they were when iOS debuted and yet the pricing model remains.

So, the backwards solution will be play games via cloud/streaming or continue to add $100 to each doubling of local storage. Either that or games are going to have to be smaller than they are on console which is no real solution at all if these games are supposed to be the same. They would be like PSV games, which are fine, but not the same. 

evev some of the better vita games are around 5 Gb.  but true AAA is in the 20-40 Gb these days making apple a complete non-starter for me. i'd still have to add a controller (which would technically be a peripheral and we know how those are supported) and their still isn't an easy way to get the picture onto a tv without buying another device like chromecast. i'm not playing on a tablet screen, i didn't buy a big hdtv not to use it. they are currently no games and apple has no first party developers. 

they have a lot of work ahead of them for me to take them seriously. 

Even though I quoted an article related to ipads, I really think that storage is going to explode in the next 2-3 years.  Cloud storage prices have dropped to almost nothing.  THat will force these devices to come with much larger storage options. The makers of SSD will have to keep up price wise and so will the Apple/Microsoft/Amazon/Samsung's of the world.  With game streaming being a likely future for games that will be gobbled up by the casuals (COD/HALO/GTA), the expectation of graphics will be lower than the AAA high end titles on PC or consoles.  Every time one of these games(COD) comes out, everyone(mostly game forum dwellers) moans about how unimpressive the graphics and gameplay are.  THe casuals love them.  If you took all of the Assasins Creed and COD and GTA games and made them available to consumers on their tablets, the sales of the consoles would be crushed.



It is near the end of the end....

Not a snowflakes chance in hell.

Mobile gaming is like fast food.

It's technically food but you couldn't live on the shit.

Try loading a 30gig game on to your little iPad memory. How much room would you have left? Are you going to re-download a game and delete another one every time you want to play more than 2 games? Hell the Battlefield 4 patches and extra maps are worth almost 10gig alone.

Now how many iPad games have sold at full retail price? Who is going to fund the triple A blockbusters when most of the mobile "gamers" won't spend more than $2 for their crap like flappy birds and candy crush.

The proper gaming industry would fold faster than superman on laundry day.



 

 

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flint said:
Landguy said:
flint said:

Never totally, games need something more tactile than a touch screen and more real estate than 11 inches once you reach a certain level of depth. If, hell when tablets match console power however soon that may be, covering half the screen to press vauge buttons is gonna hide those lovely graphics. If a tablet ships with a controller and they push the fact it can plug into a TV then it's just a console anyway and you've gone full circle. Sitting infront of a fifty inch LED with a controller that fits firmly in your hand, or with your VR headset on ;p it's just a more fulfilling experience, plus that same box can stream Netflix and the like to your big screen, they just fill different slots.

Using "Airplay" you can watch whatever is on you tablet on your big screen TV.  Just add a Bluetooth controller and BAM!  you have the exact experience that you are talking about.  You don't have to be limited to the tablet controls or screen size.  This is a current capability on the ipads, not sure about other tablets.

I know all that, what i'm saying is that that is turning it essentially a console, as that is the only way to play deeper games on the device, espeically if they sell it as such. Having one single device seems like it would work on paper, but having more than one is well within most peoples budgets and can be fare more convinent. Are you a ipad fad or did you just not read thoughly?

That's the whole popint.  Why would you need to go buy a console if the tablet that you own already can do what a console does.  Why have another "special" device to just play games (console) if you already have a tablet that can do it?

Today, that isn't practical yet, as the tablets(whether its an ipad or Samsung or Surface) aren't there technically.  But in a few years, they will be close enough for MOST people.  That will be the point where consoles will meet their demise.  Sure, maybe 1 company or 2 will produce a console, but the whole console market will be 20-30 million buyers.  The rest will be the casuals that find the "close enough" is fine by them...



It is near the end of the end....

Landguy said:
flint said:
Landguy said:
flint said:

Never totally, games need something more tactile than a touch screen and more real estate than 11 inches once you reach a certain level of depth. If, hell when tablets match console power however soon that may be, covering half the screen to press vauge buttons is gonna hide those lovely graphics. If a tablet ships with a controller and they push the fact it can plug into a TV then it's just a console anyway and you've gone full circle. Sitting infront of a fifty inch LED with a controller that fits firmly in your hand, or with your VR headset on ;p it's just a more fulfilling experience, plus that same box can stream Netflix and the like to your big screen, they just fill different slots.

Using "Airplay" you can watch whatever is on you tablet on your big screen TV.  Just add a Bluetooth controller and BAM!  you have the exact experience that you are talking about.  You don't have to be limited to the tablet controls or screen size.  This is a current capability on the ipads, not sure about other tablets.

I know all that, what i'm saying is that that is turning it essentially a console, as that is the only way to play deeper games on the device, espeically if they sell it as such. Having one single device seems like it would work on paper, but having more than one is well within most peoples budgets and can be fare more convinent. Are you a ipad fad or did you just not read thoughly?

That's the whole popint.  Why would you need to go buy a console if the tablet that you own already can do what a console does.  Why have another "special" device to just play games (console) if you already have a tablet that can do it?

Today, that isn't practical yet, as the tablets(whether its an ipad or Samsung or Surface) aren't there technically.  But in a few years, they will be close enough for MOST people.  That will be the point where consoles will meet their demise.  Sure, maybe 1 company or 2 will produce a console, but the whole console market will be 20-30 million buyers.  The rest will be the casuals that find the "close enough" is fine by them...

Yes you make a reasonable point, that makes logical sense, and who knows it may happen. I think nintendo's future is tied to making a cross handheld device like that but you are thinking way to logically about this, dealing in certainties and estimating sales numbers? Come on. I'm going by how people actually act, what has happened in the past and where we are now. The current gen has already sold 20 million, each gen has been bigger than the last, and people love buying devices for what they think it represent (i.e games) rather than what it can technically do, for pities sake who really even needs a tablet, its just, more fun than a laptop. If you ignore this perfect casual user your talking about, that you're imagining and look beyond the technical, I think consoles will be fine for, hell if you want a prediction decades as the two keep going forwards at the same rate on that less important technical front.



Buying order: Switch, better pc

All the shit mainstreamers will move on to the phones etc and gaming will be as great as it was in the late 80's early 90's.

It will be niche but thats the best that can happen to gaming.

So it will actually get a renaissance and not die because right now it is dying (quality wise etc)



As long as the big 3 publish their own games on their consoles. Never. I will always buy a PS for the first party games regardless of power.Gaming on a tablet is crap anyway as I have tried.



I've used Steam In-Home Streaming on my Windows 8 tablet before, with a controller plugged in. It works pretty well, but it still requires a computer to use.