Lol this is true. I think when people call a game downgraded the feel the need to defend their console of choice. If I can remember rightly back to E3 '05, it was Phil Harrison that wrongly claimed it was actual gameplay. Sony put this right pretty quickly announcing it was CG target render. It was Phil's mistake but as he was representing Sony at the time, people claimed that Sony tried to pull the wool over their eyes. If this was the case then Sony wouldn't have corrected the claim so quickly.

To me it was overblown but it made a good story.

If we recall history the whole story was a bit different. Sony didn't have their stuff together obviously (no wonder considering the hardware) so they had to show something to the public. Remember the FF7 intro? Yeah, that also was a good laugh and just made up, of course. Nothing wrong about it if you say that stuff you are showing is made up.

I also remember when they showed PS2 to the public and made people believe the opening scene of FFVIII could be rendered in realtime on PS2.

These are obviously things to make people believe in something that just isn't there but I think nowadays we all take those vids with a grain of salt (MS did this, too, with the first Xbox, IIRC).

At least people on Gaf still look to have some unbiased eyes. I think the CG trailer has superior fog and textures, but animations and character models are actually worse than the final game. If you played Killzone on the PS2, you will notice that most camera angles and several animations still are done in the old 6th gen fps way.

I'm not sure about the other games but I just think that they didn't intentionally try and mislead with the KZ2 CG trailer. I say this because E3 was held between the 18th and 20th of May. Not sure when they showed off the CG trailer but GG said in an interview on the 18th that it was CGI target render. That date is pretty much exactly the same time that the revealed the game. To me that sounds like one PR guy (Phil Harrison) not getting the memo.

If Sony we're trying to deceive people then why would they announce it straight away that it was a CG trailer? Plus the CG target render was talked about by GG and they say thet they had to show what they could produce and they believed, after researching the PS3 specs, they could achieve this. I don't believe that the CG trailer was a cynical move by Sony or GG.

E3 2005 dates, 18-20 May: http://www.giantbomb.com/e3/3015-3168/

GG reveal it was target render dated 18th may: http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Lounge/Killzone-2-Not-in-game-CONFERMED/td-p/15276134

GG talk about CG target render: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/248154/guerrilla-breaks-silence-on-that-killzone-2-trailer/

I'd still say the CG trailer had the overall advantage by a long shot. Better IQ, CG movie-like explosions and animation, etc.

Yeah I agree. I just don't think it was intentionally to deceive. GG are pretty open and honest. You listen to them talk about KZ:SF and they will tell you exactly what they think without holding back too much. In my previous post I linked them talking about that CG movie and they claimed it was a CG movie of what they want to achieve after studying the PS3 specs. People over reacted when 1 PR guy made a mistake of saying it was ingame which GG put right imediately.

^^that. All of it.

I think PLAYING Killzone 2 was much more fun than WATCHING a trailer of the game from 2005

Guerilla themselves may not have advertised it explicitly as "this is what the game will look like graphically", but unfortunately it did go down in gaming history as something of a bullshot, both cos of the PR dude's slip opf the tongue, and just gamers leaping to conclusions.

Yes very true.