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Intrinsic said:
sales2099 said:
 

Well the 1st sentence is true....I have no reason to argue otherwise.

Secondly, I am merely surprised 2014 is even happening the way it is for both MS given they are still growing but especially Sony, given how they have many more established studios at their disposal. Sorry but I just find it odd they didn't plan out 2014 very well for AAA releases, given their considerable resources. You wanted me to explain myself and there you go. I think more people should be calling Sony out on this.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion I guess. But no one needs to be called out on anything. Especially not Sony. And when you talk like this it goes to show that there is some bias in your comments. Didn't plan 2014 better? Funny you say that then mention if sony doesn't have 5 AAA games each year..... From november last year to november this year we will have got knack, KZ, infamous, driveclub, Resogun, MLB:TS and TLoU. That is a really great first year if you ask me. Better yet, 3 of the games in that list are new IPs.

I also think its really really really obtuse that a lot of people treat multiplat games as if they aren't also games. Every multiplat is an excluive to the platform you buy it on. If i were getting BF4 on my PS4, it really doesnt matter to me if its also on the XBO or PC. Only one version of that game will exist for me, cause no one is going to buy the game on more than one platform or no one will buy the PS4 and XBO so they can buy two different versions of one game.

And don't even get me strated on the amount of great indies so far too (stryder, transistor, child of light). But I am sure by your logic those kinda games don't count.

OT:

2015 will be a great year, thinking about all the games that should potentially release that year I can't help but feel that sony will push some back just to decongest the release window. 

Resogun and Knack is 2013. MLB is the Madden of baseball and LOS is a cash in IMO. I'm talking new AAA experiences and that means just Infamous and Drive Club. I thought Sony had an arsenal of developers cranking out games like an assembly line? So what happened this year I wonder? I just think its a bit BS that people shit on MS for lacking exclusives for a year and forgive Sony when they do the same. MS has less studios so they buy 3rd party exclusives......what is Sony's excuse this year???

The second and 3rd paragraph sounds like me defending the 360 in 2011-2013. Multiplats and indies are no excuse for a lack of AAA exclusives.....as many a Sony fan has told me the last few years. Saying indie games don't count was also a popular PS fan argument back in the day....my my do times change.

Just think its wrong that Sony gets a free pass this year, despite their exclusive releases in years prior. People like the OP are allready trying to sweep this year under the rug and go straight to 2015, and forget that 2014 ever happened.



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
tinfamous12 said:
They are talking about AAA titles for this gen, and so far Microsoft HAS had more.


lol what ? you must have a weird notion of AAA games

Big budget games on one and not on the other......X1 had more in 2013 and will have more this year.

But PS4 has more indies and multiplats with slightly improved resolution. So both have their strengths. You saying "lol what" implies ignorance on part of not bothering to research what the competition offers. 



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sales2099 said:

Resogun and Knack is 2013. MLB is the Madden of baseball and LOS is a cash in IMO. I'm talking new AAA experiences and that means just Infamous and Drive Club. I thought Sony had an arsenal of developers cranking out games like an assembly line? So what happened this year I wonder? I just think its a bit BS that people shit on MS for lacking exclusives for a year and forgive Sony when they do the same. MS has less studios so they buy 3rd party exclusives......what is Sony's excuse this year???

The second and 3rd paragraph sounds like me defending the 360 in 2011-2013. Multiplats and indies are no excuse for a lack of AAA exclusives.....as many a Sony fan has told me the last few years. Saying indie games don't count was also a popular PS fan argument back in the day....my my do times change.

Just think its wrong that Sony gets a free pass this year, despite their exclusive releases in years prior. People like the OP are allready trying to sweep this year under the rug and go straight to 2015, and forget that 2014 ever happened.

Ok, I se what is happenning here and you are just gonna dismiss everything that makes your point seem better. So how about this, in a numbers world, and one that doesn't take into consideration how gaming and gamers really work; you are absolutely right.  But bae with me and lets look at this in another way.

Knack, Resogun, Driveclub, KZ:SF, I:SS (5 games). If you buy a PS4 at december this year, those are the exclusive games you can play on it that are not on any other platform. Meaning that if you just come into the PS4, you will have all those games still there to play. If you bought a PS4 in november last year, by november this year you would have (KZ, ISS, Knack, Driveclub, Resogun, CoL, Watchdogs, Stryder, BF4, BFnext, CoD:G, CoD:AW, Batman, Assasins creed 4 , AC5, TLoU:R, TR:DE, MLB14.......etc (so far 17 games). And that list is nowhere near exhaustive. 

Point is, you may play a numbers game that talks as if the only thing that gamers play are exclusives and the only exclusives that applies to a console are the ones coming out that year and I could play the numbers game and tell you that anyone that is on the PS4 and buying games for it has more games to play than they can afford to buy in a year. And don't come dismissing games for whatever reason you feel they should count or not count, cause if you did that again, then i would have to find/or wait for sales figures of said games to show you the amount of ppl that obviously do not agree with you and made that clear by buying the games.

I'll say again, if you want to say that in 2014 sony has only released ISS and driveclub and thats that and boohoo ist such a shame then you are absolutely right. No argument there. But thats just now how gaming really works though.



Add all the awesome 3rd party non exclusives and Sony got them selves beast mode



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Intrinsic said:
sales2099 said:

Resogun and Knack is 2013. MLB is the Madden of baseball and LOS is a cash in IMO. I'm talking new AAA experiences and that means just Infamous and Drive Club. I thought Sony had an arsenal of developers cranking out games like an assembly line? So what happened this year I wonder? I just think its a bit BS that people shit on MS for lacking exclusives for a year and forgive Sony when they do the same. MS has less studios so they buy 3rd party exclusives......what is Sony's excuse this year???

The second and 3rd paragraph sounds like me defending the 360 in 2011-2013. Multiplats and indies are no excuse for a lack of AAA exclusives.....as many a Sony fan has told me the last few years. Saying indie games don't count was also a popular PS fan argument back in the day....my my do times change.

Just think its wrong that Sony gets a free pass this year, despite their exclusive releases in years prior. People like the OP are allready trying to sweep this year under the rug and go straight to 2015, and forget that 2014 ever happened.

Ok, I se what is happenning here and you are just gonna dismiss everything that makes your point seem better. So how about this, in a numbers world, and one that doesn't take into consideration how gaming and gamers really work; you are absolutely right.  But bae with me and lets look at this in another way.

Knack, Resogun, Driveclub, KZ:SF, I:SS (5 games). If you buy a PS4 at december this year, those are the exclusive games you can play on it that are not on any other platform. Meaning that if you just come into the PS4, you will have all those games still there to play. If you bought a PS4 in november last year, by november this year you would have (KZ, ISS, Knack, Driveclub, Resogun, CoL, Watchdogs, Stryder, BF4, BFnext, CoD:G, CoD:AW, Batman, Assasins creed 4 , AC5, TLoU:R, TR:DE, MLB14.......etc (so far 17 games). And that list is nowhere near exhaustive. 

Point is, you may play a numbers game that talks as if the only thing that gamers play are exclusives and the only exclusives that applies to a console are the ones coming out that year and I could play the numbers game and tell you that anyone that is on the PS4 and buying games for it has more games to play than they can afford to buy in a year. And don't come dismissing games for whatever reason you feel they should count or not count, cause if you did that again, then i would have to find/or wait for sales figures of said games to show you the amount of ppl that obviously do not agree with you and made that clear by buying the games.

I'll say again, if you want to say that in 2014 sony has only released ISS and driveclub and thats that and boohoo ist such a shame then you are absolutely right. No argument there. But thats just now how gaming really works though.

You are doing the same thing, including December games in 2014. Sorry but me and many other people evaluate releases based on the calendar year. Listing multiplats and indies again, sounds like me 3 years ago trying to justify 360's lack of exclusives. The point is not that PS4 is lacking in content. Offcourse I know PS4 has enough content this year.

The core fans however expect a certain amount of AAA games on top of whatever multiplats and indies release. That is the sole reason 360 got so much crap the last few years, despite mul;tiplats and XBLA supporting the console just fine. Get it? You are giving SOny a free pass this year when they have the resources to do more. Again, MS doesn't have those resources and buys 3rd party exclusives.......what is Sony's excuse this year I wonder? Because fans certainly aren't calling them out like they have on MS the past few years. Your attitude only solidifies my stance on a cruel double standard in the industry.



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sales2099 said:

The core fans however expect a certain amount of AAA games on top of whatever multiplats and indies release. That is the sole reason 360 got so much crap the last few years, despite mul;tiplats and XBLA supporting the console just fine. Get it? You are giving SOny a free pass this year when they have the resources to do more. Again, MS doesn't have those resources and buys 3rd party exclusives.......what is Sony's excuse this year I wonder? Because fans certainly aren't calling them out like they have on MS the past few years. 

Was anyone calling MS out in the first yer of it being on the market? Cause I sure as hell remember that for a year or two into the PS3s life the biggest argumnet was that the PS3 has no gamez!! As it seems to be again now with the PS4. And you say a core fans expect a certain number of AAA games right? But yet its not the core playstation fans here that are complaining.

And you keep talking about calling MS out in the last few years, MS deserved to be called out in the last few years, in the past 3 years they have had only 6/7 AAA releases. Compare that to sony's last 3 years. The early adoptpters (the ppl that buy in the first year) should know that the launch year is always slow, so it would be silly to be expecting 2nd, 3rd or 4th year portfolio performance in year one. 

The games will come for the PS4, any fan of sony knows that, never has there been a playstation generation wheer they have not delivered on software and new IPs. In the whole of last generation MS introduced one new major IP. Gears of war, sony brought in over 10 completely new IPs. I know thats not what the argument is about here, but I am using that to say to you that this argument is simply toooo premature. Lets come back in 18 months and have this conversation again.



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Intrinsic said:
sales2099 said:

The core fans however expect a certain amount of AAA games on top of whatever multiplats and indies release. That is the sole reason 360 got so much crap the last few years, despite mul;tiplats and XBLA supporting the console just fine. Get it? You are giving SOny a free pass this year when they have the resources to do more. Again, MS doesn't have those resources and buys 3rd party exclusives.......what is Sony's excuse this year I wonder? Because fans certainly aren't calling them out like they have on MS the past few years. 

Was anyone calling MS out in the first yer of it being on the market? Cause I sure as hell remember that for a year or two into the PS3s life the biggest argumnet was that the PS3 has no gamez!! As it seems to be again now with the PS4. And you say a core fans expect a certain number of AAA games right? But yet its not the core playstation fans here that are complaining.

And you keep talking about calling MS out in the last few years, MS deserved to be called out in the last few years, in the past 3 years they have had only 6/7 AAA releases. Compare that to sony's last 3 years. The early adoptpters (the ppl that buy in the first year) should know that the launch year is always slow, so it would be silly to be expecting 2nd, 3rd or 4th year portfolio performance in year one. 

The games will come for the PS4, any fan of sony knows that, never has there been a playstation generation wheer they have not delivered on software and new IPs. In the whole of last generation MS introduced one new major IP. Gears of war, sony brought in over 10 completely new IPs. I know thats not what the argument is about here, but I am using that to say to you that this argument is simply toooo premature. Lets come back in 18 months and have this conversation again.

Just confirms my views that PS fans give Sony a free pass this year because they succeeded in past years.

"But yet its not the core playstation fans here that are complaining." And that sir is the double standard.



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sales2099 said:

Just confirms my views that PS fans give Sony a free pass this year because they succeeded in past years.

"But yet its not the core playstation fans here that are complaining." And that sir is the double standard.

Sigh.... you are totally not gonna listen are you?  The PS fans are doing the exact same thing they did in the first year of the PS3. They are saying, its only been less than a year and the games will come. Give it one year. That is no diferent from what they did in the last generation and it sucks they have to do it again. 

Anyways, if this is all a double standard to you and you can't see why this happens? then I'm sorry.