keyboard and mouse i can adjust to after a while but i dont play anymore cause my laptop isnt gaming friendly. used to and could probably get back to it if i wanted.

the 360 controller is bigger than what im used to but it wasnt uncomfortable when i played long hours of Lost Odyssey

... anymore questions? i have my reasons to dislike something, i dont usually feed blind hate, so i dont mind explaining it.

Describe, in detail, why these controllers are not suitable for continuous play, or "long hours" as you suggest.

i felt the tablet controller was too big and didnt feel very confortable to hold, it might suit smaller sessions and party games with specific features but i dont have hands big enough for it to feel... ok, i guess. i played some Wonderful 101 on it at a friends house and played the Rayman Legends at the store if you want specifics.

Didnt get to play with the pro controller, held and it felt very thin and light, the light part is good, but it couldnt be bulkier than maybe two smarthphones glued together. I asked my friend cause it didnt seem very confortable, he said it wasnt but it was better to play with than the tablet one.

So i think the next nintendo console should have by default a controller like the pro one, but a bit sturdier and more confortable.

I was very surprised that the Wii U came with only the Tablet controller, no wii motion plus controller included. I played a few hours of chocobo dungeon on the wii with the wii controller sideways like a regular controller and it didnt feel so off. I think it's a bit of a rip off that it's not included when it's a standard for most games and probably the most versatile controller they have right now.

I appreciate that you took the time to think about things and offer a considered opinion here.

It's far too easy to just declare that something is "bad" and a "gimmick", so it's a shame that it took me pestering you to squeeze out some diplomacy.

LOL, i didnt mean to generalize it though, i just tried it and it felt unconfortable to ME. sorry if it came out as a generalization i was just pointing out what I wanted out of nintendo to guarantee a purchase from me.

It is okay to admit that you don't have manly hands.  Wii U gamepad doesn't bother me.  However, you know what really bothered me...  The original fat xbox controllers.  I hated those controllers.

It is okay to admit that you don't have manly hands.  Wii U gamepad doesn't bother me.  However, you know what really bothered me...  The original fat xbox controllers.  I hated those controllers.

A new war has begun.