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KiigelHeart said:

Another subject, what are we thinking about City's chances? Is David Silva able to play?

Shouldn't the question be: Is Ronaldo able to play? I give City 50% chance if he doesn't... 20% when he does..



 

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KiigelHeart said:

I disagree it makes no sense. You play both away and home, shouldn't matter where you score your hard earned goals. You show how good you are by defending your goal in two games, now both were equally good in that regard but no extra time played because of stupid rule. Just keep it simple, goal = goal.

Another subject, what are we thinking about City's chances? Is David Silva able to play?

Why not the other team has the home advantage, the rule is fine as it is, it punishes complacent play and rewards performance across both legs as opposed to one. In the past you had teams that played ultra dull in the away leg and bank it all on home perfomances to force extra time and all, it hurt the game so the competition responded by not only making every goal count but by also taking head to head performance into count.

It's only a problem if you can't be consistent across 2 legs, I know some people are salty over the result but as the rule goes it's perfectly fine.



I enjoy atletico's defensive play and think it's genius and effective. I despise the way their manager acts and the players shameful time wasting.

Makes me want to see Real Madrid(more likely) or man city pummel through them .



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Volterra_90 said:

I don't think Pep really needed a plan B. Actually, Bayern totally destroyed Atletico and the normal thing is that they won easily by 3, 4 goals more. I really fell in love with Bayern after today's match. They were so good. Bayern's supporters must be proud of them, it was impossible to do more.

Atletico went over 600 minute's without conceding a goal and Bayern scored twice, and made them shake throughout the match. They definitely earned a fan in me after their 'win' today.



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Wyrdness said:
Why not the other team has the home advantage, the rule is fine as it is, it punishes complacent play and rewards performance across both legs as opposed to one. In the past you had teams that played ultra dull in the away leg and bank it all on home perfomances to force extra time and all, it hurt the game so the competition responded by not only making every goal count but by also taking head to head performance into count. 

It's only a problem if you can't be consistent across 2 legs, I know some people are salty over the result but as the rule goes it's perfectly fine.

In the past was like 50 years ago or something lol and there has already been discussions whether the rules is productive for moder day football or not. I really have hard time understanding your reasoning, the rule clearly rewards performance in one leg. Neither teams were consistent across 2 legs, Atletico held a clean sheet and then let the opponet score two goals, but were rewarded a win based on first leg. Both teams play with home advantage, head to head performance is who scores the most goals across two legs.

This has nothing to do with being salty over last nights game. I'm rooting for City tonight but it's still stupid that if they score one goal, Real suddenly has to score two. The rule also doesn't prevent games from being bore-fests like 1st leg of Real-City, I'd say it does the opposite. If you're happy with 0-0 result at home, something's not right imo.

Maybe away goals to count before going to penalty shootout, no?  

 

 



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I don't really feel strongly for the away goals rule.

First and foremost,the advantage is always on the first leg at home club than the first away club. Second, the second home club will feel the pressure regardless of the result during the first leg match.



Wyrdness said:
KiigelHeart said:

I disagree it makes no sense. You play both away and home, shouldn't matter where you score your hard earned goals. You show how good you are by defending your goal in two games, now both were equally good in that regard but no extra time played because of stupid rule. Just keep it simple, goal = goal.

Another subject, what are we thinking about City's chances? Is David Silva able to play?

Why not the other team has the home advantage, the rule is fine as it is, it punishes complacent play and rewards performance across both legs as opposed to one. In the past you had teams that played ultra dull in the away leg and bank it all on home perfomances to force extra time and all, it hurt the game so the competition responded by not only making every goal count but by also taking head to head performance into count.

It's only a problem if you can't be consistent across 2 legs, I know some people are salty over the result but as the rule goes it's perfectly fine.

Definitely not salty! I want Atletico to win the cup so the rule has benefited my fav team more than any other team at this point. Still hoping UEFA would rethink it in the future.



You guys are making scratch my head.

 

Pep's tiki taka turned everyone's head in 2008 to Barcelona. They were the most enjoyable team to watch. They scored the most goals during the group stage. Went on to beat Bayern 5-0. Not to mention, they were mostly the same group of players that failed miserably under Frank Rijkaard.

Chelsea was having a bad season and everyone expected Barca to rule them.

Garndpa Guus parked the bus and showed the world how it's done. By some miracle, Barca won. But that match changed how every team played against Pep until this day, just park the bus if you want to have a chance.

One time, Murinho tried to not to park it against Barcelona and RM lost 5-0. So he sticked to what Guus Hiddink taught us thereafter.

Don't blame Pep if you are bored, the other team is certainly not the football you would like to see. Nothing to do with Pep. Although, he has learnt a few things on how to deal with these situations, it showed when they played against Juve and Atletico.



could this be the year of the underdog? if City qualify against Real it would be a great thing, Atl Vs City, of course i would want atl to win.

best thing to happen this season would be for atl to win the champions league, barca to slip up again and Atl go on to win the Spanish league, along side Leicester already winning the premier league... what a season it would be



Predictions? Real - City 4:0



 

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