Okay, I don't want to go back and forth on this point. Anyone who thinks MK8 and Smash will have a meaningful effect thinks Nintendo will exceed their estimate in some way. In fact I think I said I thought as much in my very first post in the thread. Doesn't mean it's going to. But I certainly expect it to.

But beyond that and back to the thread topic. Vita sold similarly to WiiU in 2013, it will sell less than WiiU WW 2014, and it will sell less than WiiU WW 2015. The current 2 million gap will consistently close if Nintendo meets their expectations at all. I think the gap could close to under 1.3 million this year alone. Like I said, WiiU is tracking ahead of Vita for a similar time period, and Vita will not have legs like its predecessor's in any territory. I do not think it will grow in the States after this year.
Just how I see it. It's a battle of losers right now.

'King of the Cripples' is always a fun thing to talk about.

PSVita Shipment and WiiU estimative is similar around 3.5M so I don't think it will close much of the gap. And we still have to see how 100-150 PSVita would do in other markets, would probably raise the PSV selling above WiiU, they are both tracking poorly. WIth the difference that WiiU "for the same period" had 1-1,5 years of no competition. PSVita always had 3DS and smartphones against it. So PSVita curve should be more normalized than WiiU for the previous period, so it's quite possible that WiiU will face a bigger drop.

There is no fun in discussing PS4 against WiiU or 3DS against Vita... and PS4 against X1 is always a war... so the only pleasant discussion we can have is the king of doomed.

Its the oficial topic of this thread.

Nobody stated that any of them will be glorious, we are only trying to look at it from an analyst point of view, and decide which one will have a larger installbase at the end of the day, even if that difference will be in the 1-2 million range.

Vita will stay ahead of the Wii U for this year, but it will probably be overtaken eventually.

Um, why are you telling me something I already know? I was just looking at the situation in a general sense and that's the first thing that popped into my head. 

We could also do a thread of what will be the least amount a console will sell a week on Japan... Wii and X360 are like 120 units (and if we use VGC correction factors that could mean 0-1k)

Nah, that would be too easy of an answer. The XBO will definitely "win" that one. In general, things aren't looking up for the console market in Japan and the XB brand was already not very strong. 

Owww not which console will sink lower, but what will be the lower number VGC will show for it... 12, 50?