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TheDrill said:
Garland said:
TheDrill's being absolutely delusional if he thinks that many people will instantly rush out to buy the $399 Kinectless console.

It's still a worse value than the PS4, & still a worse value than the Xbox One being bundled with a game or two.


What's funny is when I call people delusional I get banned.

Consider this: X1 was overpriced (compared to PS4), had bad reputation and still managed to hold it's own. between PS4 and X1 (not counting Wii U)

X1 has ~ 45 % marketshare,  I can admit even 40 if you guys discredit my numbers

And futhermore it's  selling more than X360 in the same period, if that's not impressive, IDK what is.

Now you can't deny the fact that a price cut will definitely increase sales, and the FPS exclusives and Halo always sell good in US audiences, and will push consoles.

So in the US X1 is far from beaten.

Um, we are potentially seeing a 700k gap in the US after May NPD results come out. A debundling will only provide a transient boost. We're only 4 days from the SKU launch and on Amazon, PS4 stands at #6. Kinect-less Xbox One.... #84. ( http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_10 )



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TheDrill said:

Dont forget that I am talking about the US, last generation X360 decimated the PS3 in US and in the UK.

Microsoft has a lot of money to push into X1, furthermore software wise they can potentially buy exclusives, and Halo and Gears of war is a system seller.

At the current rate, as I have said, it would take only an average perhaps 15k increase per week to catch up in the US with Sony in a few months, that is not unrealistic, and it will grow more if Sony sells less units.

Hey I am still waiting for a reply from you. 

With a 27% boost for Xbox One thanks to Watch Dogs in the US on May 31st we have the numbers at 31 k also represents the highest Xbox One has sold during May.

The smallest PS4 sold in the same month is 50K. So adding 15K to the highest number of Xbox One in may that is 46K.

Since you have a master in computer science I think it is fair to say that 50K>46K

Now if by 15k increase you meant outselling the PS4 in the US by 15k , then that will put the number of the Xbox One around 65K. To reach that number Xbox One would need a 100% boost.The second week of Titanfall with bundle available + price cut + free Titanfall, Xbox One only manage to sell 60k. On the third week of Titanfall with still price cut+free Titnfall, Xbox One manage to sell 45k...

So please enlight me with your master in computer science 

Also can you check if the percentage of gap is still 13%?? I am guessing that is an easy calculation for you. 



riecsou said:
TheDrill said:

Dont forget that I am talking about the US, last generation X360 decimated the PS3 in US and in the UK.

Microsoft has a lot of money to push into X1, furthermore software wise they can potentially buy exclusives, and Halo and Gears of war is a system seller.

At the current rate, as I have said, it would take only an average perhaps 15k increase per week to catch up in the US with Sony in a few months, that is not unrealistic, and it will grow more if Sony sells less units.

Hey I am still waiting for a reply from you. 

With a 27% boost for Xbox One thanks to Watch Dogs in the US on May 31st we have the numbers at 31 k also represents the highest Xbox One has sold during May.

The smallest PS4 sold in the same month is 50K. So adding 15K to the highest number of Xbox One in may that is 46K.

Since you have a master in computer science I think it is fair to say that 50K>46K

Now if by 15k increase you meant outselling the PS4 in the US by 15k , then that will put the number of the Xbox One around 65K. To reach that number Xbox One would need a 100% boost.The second week of Titanfall with bundle available + price cut + free Titanfall, Xbox One only manage to sell 60k. On the third week of Titanfall with still price cut+free Titnfall, Xbox One manage to sell 45k...

So please enlight me with your master in computer science 

Also can you check if the percentage of gap is still 13%?? I am guessing that is an easy calculation for you. 

 

marketshare wise in the US X1 is 45 % while PS4 is 55 % (between PS4 and X1 only, not including Wii U)

This is still extremely close and the price cut will definitely recover X1 sales in the USA.



TheDrill said:

marketshare wise in the US X1 is 45 % while PS4 is 55 % (between PS4 and X1 only, not including Wii U)

This is still extremely close and the price cut will definitely recover X1 sales in the USA.

That's not close. Percentages are scalar quantities, not definitive quantities.

For instance, Sony sells 55 PS4's and MS sells 45 X1's. That's close because that's only a 10 unit difference.

However, the sales figures are much larger and the gap is 600-700k. That isn't small. As said before, your original 10k per week (and after that, 15k per week) prediction is totally false. The X1 needs to outsell the PS4 by 21500 to 25000 units per week, more than twice your original "prediction". To outsell the PS4 each week by that much is impossible. Why? As we seen from multiplats like Tomb Raider, MGS: Ground Zeroes, Wolfenstein, and Watch Dogs, they move more PS4's than X1's. Because Sony has exclusive advertising rights to Destiny, more people will be inclined to buy PS4's.



TheDrill is the worst fanboy i have read about in a long time cudos to you!!,

go on my friend you can beat them !

Xbox sell more ,,,in your head, live with it

 

Edit: Moderated - Starcraft

 



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After checking Amazon and Gamestop again, PS4 is at #6 and #48, respectively. In contrast, the X1-only SKU is at #71 and #90, respectively. Still not a positive outlook for the X1.



UndauntedWizdom said:
Epic cotdamn bumpage! lol. Thread title can remain and probably be true... but only with the word "soon" omitted.


I see a lot of people, including those in the gaming press! who seem to express that opinion, as if MS was somehow bound to overtake the PS4 with the XB1... The reasonins being that 1 - Resolution/FPS/Specs does not matter (doh, why even bother with a new console then?) 2 - Sony's game line up is somehow "dry" despite the PS4 having literally TWICE as many games announced for the remaining of the year...

Add to this that even the very week Titanfall released it sold less than the PS4, in the US, then came the amazing deals... there was no avail, weekly sales were still closer to those of the PS3 than those of the PS4...

Now the kinectless 399 system, it's the same price as the PS4, but the console is now just a weaker console that cost the same as the stronger machine with twice as many games (a lot of multi-platform titles run better on PS4 as well.. in the "worst case" you get parity between the two).

As far as the big AAA titles for the remaining of the year, we will see, but I can see Driveclub going head to head with Forza Horizon 2 and whatever else will be announced at E3 from both companies (Hint, Halo remake will not have more effect than The Last of Us remake...).



TheDrill said:
riecsou said:

Hey I am still waiting for a reply from you. 

With a 27% boost for Xbox One thanks to Watch Dogs in the US on May 31st we have the numbers at 31 k also represents the highest Xbox One has sold during May.

The smallest PS4 sold in the same month is 50K. So adding 15K to the highest number of Xbox One in may that is 46K.

Since you have a master in computer science I think it is fair to say that 50K>46K

Now if by 15k increase you meant outselling the PS4 in the US by 15k , then that will put the number of the Xbox One around 65K. To reach that number Xbox One would need a 100% boost.The second week of Titanfall with bundle available + price cut + free Titanfall, Xbox One only manage to sell 60k. On the third week of Titanfall with still price cut+free Titnfall, Xbox One manage to sell 45k...

So please enlight me with your master in computer science 

Also can you check if the percentage of gap is still 13%?? I am guessing that is an easy calculation for you. 

 

marketshare wise in the US X1 is 45 % while PS4 is 55 % (between PS4 and X1 only, not including Wii U)

This is still extremely close and the price cut will definitely recover X1 sales in the USA.

So are you saying that 55% of 6.3 Millions is close to 45% of 6.3 Millions?

And it needs 15k more weekly to reaches it soon? Now I wonder what percentage 15k represent out of 6.3 Millions. Using simple math logic 15K only represent 0.2% of 6.3 Millions. You are the one with the master degree, maybe you can make more sense out of those numbers.

And what happened to the easy calculation of the gap percentage?? That should be easy for you to compute !!

If you are having trouble getting the gap percentage, I will post it later for you



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