And how is this even remotely relevant to the topic at hand?

Where have i said Nintendo need to focus less on art style and more on graphics? I'm simply disappointing they haven't tried to excel in both. My mention of other members was that i was told i was wrong for believing MK8 wasn't pushing the WiiU at 720p/60fps, yet some of those same users were perfectly accepting that MK8 could now be 1080p/60fps (which resource wise is like running the game twice, contradicting their first statement that i was wrong).

BenVTrigger put it well "A game can be 4k with insane texture quality and still be highly stylized. There is no negative result of higher fidelity graphics."

As shocking as it may sound, some people will value subjective measures of quality over objective measures of quality. Like how some people will prefer Mario Kart because they like kart racers significantly more than driving sims. :O

I just made this gif for more comparison.

lol, I already wasted enough time at work finding those two images.  But that's only marginally worse than the two you posed.  That one from Driveclub is a promotional still, and not something you would ever see in-game.  I surely hope that driveclub is technially more impressive than MK8 given the additional processing power available on PS4, but MK8 is a graphical achievement in its own way.  The lighting, the polished look of the characters, activity going on in the background, the resolution and the speed/framerate is all very impressive.  Good on Nintendo for getting back in the game visually.

Do you mean AI? cause wii u games certainly has that better than most games from other companies.

^ "Game Designer"

The DC promotional shot is an in-game screenshot ^^; Same as this gif daredevil just made from the recent trailer: (also, HQ download link to the trailer so you can pause at the car close ups http://www.mediafire.com/download/xycb278ufc8u1du/DC_REANNOUNCE_GM_102_E_1080HQ.rar)


The MK8 picture you showed was an artistic render, not a screenshot :P For future reference, the first is an artistic render, the second is an in-game screenshot (from the same track at about the same angle). I'm sure you can see the obvious difference, hence i assumed the two screens you posted were a joke ^^;

I'd also like to point out that my complaints about the AA, polygon counts and textures are just as valid in the top picture :) Right click and copy url to see them in full size.

I'm glad I'm not in your group of boring friends. How old are you?

Nearing 40 and me as well as many of my friends of many age ranges all greatly enjoy MK and can't wait to use its tourney features. Ah well, guess it shouldn't be fun because it uses color and cartoon-like action items.

I actually like the graphics and I'm ok with it. In fact, I believe they are damn good.
My real concern is the level design. Already saw a lot of tracks (rainbow road included) and looks plain to me.