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fps_d0minat0r said:
I thought Jay loved lists....
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=171061&page=1

Is that thread gonna continue or is it as good as dead now?


LOL!

Obviously Jay's rules dont apply to himself. Hes list wars thread is far superior and completely devoid of any agenda and bias!



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JayWood2010 said:
fps_d0minat0r said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=171061&page=1

Is that thread gonna continue or is it as good as dead now?


Nope, it will continue forward as more stuff comes out.  Its not claiming one console is superior over the other(it was made before the gen even started), i presented what it is doing, there is not  an agenda, no elitism, and whatever happens in the coming years happens.  I tried making it as fair as i possibly could and if there is any complaints as there was at first ive tried to fix them so everybody is happy.  I thought it would be a great thread to hold up for years and see how things develop over the gen.  It isnt a thread that i made to say "hey, my console is better than yours".

But they're lists all the same and as such they will be used in the list wars you are decrying.

Others intent and post-creation malicious use are beyond your control.

Its like saying hey everyone stop shooting each other with our guns... that we make....

 

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lucidium said:
JayWood2010 said:

 


I understand what youre saying, though i was never intending it to be a thread that promotes superiority or something of that nature. Either way i do understand the comparison :)




       

In fact looking at the list war thread that spurred this on:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=181974&page=1

There is zero attempt to start some sort of fanboy war in the ACTUAL article that the OP posted. The article clearly states that Sony's attempt to get indie support has paid off in that it has significantly more indie games in general.

It says absolutely nothing about one being better than the other. We should actually keep the thread going and continually update the list over the years or perhaps create a new thread for it. Without the needless attacks on the OP.



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I see what you are saying and understand. But I feel different....I honestly feel that people just take lists wars to serious. All it does is show what is available to play on the systems. People just like to argue about what they FEEL is worth playing or not. Or what they "care" about. Which is indeed fine we all have our opinions on things.

But what does that have to do with making a lists of games available on opposing systems? Why is it taken to heart when a person makes a list? Not making a list is not the answer in my opinion. It is people getting so worked up over a list that is the problem. Or feeling the need to downplay a list that doesn't "fit their agenda". Nothing wrong with discussing a list or games on a list at all. Nothing wrong with saying you prefer game A or B or list games C-F on the lists and don't like G-K etc.

Just don't make it seem like opinion is fact...that is the issue.



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All Wars should stop, doesn't they?



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@OP:

Well told! Let's spend that time more usefully starting a list of list wars war instead!!!



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sales2099 said:

For one thing we have no unified rules.

- Some list all games, despite many having sub 70 metas
- Some list only exclusives in a 1 vs 1 comparison, even when both have multiplats on one but not the other, which should count but are completely neglected. But that said, the list equalizes when certain games have more worth/relevance then others.
- Some do indies and some don't. That is ok but the problem is that some weigh them the same when we both know a 90+ meta indie and a 90+ AAA exclusive are not equal in the eyes of the core gamer.
- Some didn't include motion games.....this was due to kinect having some games with decent metas like Dance Central while the other didn't have any above the 70s meta

We need a unified system here or nothing at all. That is why I now keep my lists simple and without filler: just system sellers.

Hahaha and what counts as a system seller? Why is a system seller even more important than a regular game to the gamer? Even the biggest "system seller" only helps a console for a short period of time. Libraries sell consoles and because libraries sell console just talking about whatever you think counts as a "system seller" is all but missing the point.



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