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Daisuke72 said:

No one wants to be seen with a handheld in public anymore, unless they're a kid. Period, no one I know in real life would play a handheld console while on a train or bus, it'd make them look like complete losers. Seriously, playing handhelds when you're older than 16 in public makes you look like a geek lol. Vita would work well for kids, if it wasn't so god damn expensive. The 3DS looks more kid friendly and whatnot and has more kid friendly games, and it's cheaper.

 

If Sony wants to compete they have to make their next handheld console with a more kiddy image and less of a CODHARDCOREGORE image, because at the end of the day. The only people who play handhelds in publics are people who dont give a fuck about being judged, no matter what image you give the handheld they'll play it in public as long as it has games, not as expensive and whatnot. But by giving it a kiddy image it appeals to kids, something a Vita simply does not design wise or marketing wise. 

The PSP was badass because the PS2 was dominating atm, and the PSP was MANY people's first mobile media device. Browsing the web and using its app in 2005 was revolutionary, so it had decent use outside of gaming, and when kids got it they felt like they were badass and it had some kid friendly games on it. Meanwhile the Vita uses a horribly designed OS with no features that differeniate itself from a smartphone, expensive, and not kiddy friendly, what were they thinking? 

 

also I develop mobile games for Android, and even I wouldnt be caught dead with a Vita in public, nor anyone I know who knows of it. And I dont see myself using it at home as it defeats the purpose, if Sony had made Vita a smartphone then I would buy it day 1.

Where do you get this from..?
How is it any worse than the people playing Angry Birds and Candy Crush on their phones..? I don't think your normal crowd will know the difference.



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Daisuke72 said:
toot1231 said:
I play mine in public well atleast if im just sitting inside the mall or something and im 30.
I see lots of people doing it here in WV I always see atleast 1 grown man playing pokemon X at the mall.


No offense but man if I saw someone 30 years old playing a handheld at a mall I would judge them. Do you own a Vita?


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There isn't really much of a market for non-Nintendo handhelds that aren't phones or tablets to begin with.

Seriously, I'm not sure if Sony could've done ANYTHING to make the Vita a real success at this point.



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pokoko said:
Daisuke72 said:
toot1231 said:
I play mine in public well atleast if im just sitting inside the mall or something and im 30.
I see lots of people doing it here in WV I always see atleast 1 grown man playing pokemon X at the mall.


No offense but man if I saw someone 30 years old playing a handheld at a mall I would judge them. Do you own a Vita?

Of the two people in your scenario, I'd be far more judgemental of the person who looked down on someone else for playing a game on a handheld.  An actual adult isn't really worried about proving to the rest of the world that they are an adult.  It's like how a teenager is worried about being seen shopping with their mother but a grown-up has no such insecurities.

Well hey that's just how things are. When I go out I want to dress and look nice and get attention from ladies and make other people jealous of how I present myself.

 

Honestly an attractive woman would laugh at me if they saw me playing a 3DS and a normal guy would around my age would laugh or make jokes about me.



gigantor21 said:
There isn't really much of a market for non-Nintendo handhelds that aren't phones or tablets to begin with.

Seriously, I'm not sure if Sony could've done ANYTHING to make the Vita a real success at this point.


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Do you lie about what you do/aspire to do for a living (make games). You know since you mock people for playing games in public, and seem to be paralysed with fear at the idea of you yourself playing them in public?



 

gigantor21 said:
There isn't really much of a market for non-Nintendo handhelds that aren't phones or tablets to begin with.

Seriously, I'm not sure if Sony could've done ANYTHING to make the Vita a real success at this point.

pokoko said:
That disappointing thing is that I believe Sony is actually well positioned to work on cross-media projects because of their presence in the film industry. Television or movie tie-ins could be big if they had a well-designed game to go along with them.

They simply dropped the ball with Vita support relative to what it needed to succeed in North America.

Vita got the same games as aimed at their 26 year old males that bought PS3s.  Most of them drive in America.

If they could hit 149 and apply the above strategy with say and Invizmals, Minecraft, Pets, Gravity Rush 2 they could make inroads to that audience. They simply chose to not try.   



I'm embarrassed that so many people are embarrassed of playing a 3DS and/or Vita in public.



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Aren't they kind of doing that? Every game you list is expected to release in 2014 and from May the Vita price is $199 with a full price game and memory card, which technically brings it to $150 for the console.



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MikeRox said:
Aren't they kind of doing that? Every game you list is expected to release in 2014 and from May the Vita price is $199 with a full price game and memory card, which technically brings it to $150 for the console.

Nope. I see no television and movie tie ins.  None of that stuff is better than an MSRP of $149.   Consumers wont care about technically. They care about out of pocket.  They should have bundled memory from the start.  Or they can add a smaller better game download like Minecraft on 2000 models extra memory and start putting games on higher capacity cards for updates and stuff.