That goes for both sides.  Honestly, the majority of what starts these power discussions/arguments is some Xbox fans unwillingness to just "deal with it."  They are always looking for some new form of secret sauce (cloud, dGPU, tiled resources, DX, etc.) and/or take devs comments out of context to try and "prove" that SW can actually makeup for a lack of HW.  Though, I have to say, MS doesn't make it any easier, either, as they keep trying to downplay the difference by coming up with PR that will "close the gap."

Maybe a better thread would be "When will the talk about the graphical differences between the PS4 and the XB1 disappear?"

It's a minority voice currently, but there are those who are still making their case for how the difference will vanish as development tools improve for the XB1 (and of course there's always the Infinite Power of the Cloud to fall back on), when the argument should simply be that results on the XB1 will continue to improve as development tools improve allowing for better results within the constraints of the hardware restrictions of the XB1.

And I'll point out that every platform has restrictions. Some are simply more restricted than others.

But this imagined time when results are identical on two separate platforms of varying capabilities is essentially relying upon no improvement in SCE's own development tools, improvement in developers to optimize their results within the constraints of the PS4 platform and an imagined hypothetical scenario in which developers will simply be "lazier" on the platform with more resources so that there can be parity between various versions of their multiplatform games, when what we've seen in reality is lead platforms perform best and results are scaled back appropriately to accomodate the differences in hardware resources on other platforms. 

The PS4 platform has plenty of room to grow, just like the XB1; but it's still packing more cubes under the hood between the better GPU and faster memory alone. 

@ bold

Well, now I know you're just talking out of your butt.  Seems every vid, review, AND even DF's analysis disagrees with you.  So, I'm just going to assume you don't have the game.

I agree with everything you said.

Really?

maybe I should have /s at the end than...

I mean, hardware is hardware, if you have a gtx 670, it will never be a Titan. 

I think the more some Xbox fans deny the difference with either "I can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p" or just completely make up "facts" about games, like dandd just did with Infamous:SS, the more they bring attention to the issue.  They would do much better for themselves, and the One, if they just dealt with it, and stopped trying to look for that elusive "secret sauce."

it doesn't matter cause PS4 fans will continue enjoy their PS4 games, and XB1 fans will enjoy their games on XB1, even if XB1 games never catch up to be the same as PS4 level isn't it... 

That guy definetly never played the game...talking crap about infamous graphics and frame rate is totally not possible for someone who played it. 

Arguing about gameplay or art style is possible but graphical/technical wise its the biggest achievement so far on console and by miles. Ryse looks good for sure but coming from them its no surprise, I hope they release something multi plat such as crysis soon so we can see what they can do with ps4.

No lol! You cannot change the fact that the PS4 is just flat out vastly superior to the Xbox One. In fact the PS4 even uses a more optimized API. At best Xbox One will eke out 1080p while PS4 just gets 1080p with even greater visuals...

Yeah, when the hardware difference disappears.