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Captain_Tom said:
HylianSwordsman said:
Captain_Tom said:
HylianSwordsman said:
Captain_Tom said:
Meanwhile it was nearly free on Humble Bundle and is regularly $5 on Steam. This is why a lot of people say Nintendo is behind. They NEVER reduce the prices on their games enough over time...


Right, because Nintendo published Darksiders 2, you know, so it's their fault the price is still so high.

Um yes it is.  Steam does not own Darsiders and neither does Sony.  Yes it was under $20 in OCTOBER on PS3...


Right, and of course Nintendo makes the prices for games they don't own the rights to sell.

You're right.  Nintendo has no control over what games cost on THEIR system.  They are perfect angels.  /s

-Super Paper Mario sold 3.5m and still sells for $20 on Amazon.

-Resistance: Fall of Man sold 4.23m and sells for $15 or $30 for all 3 games in the series.

Resistance scored slightly higher on metacritic and SPM can be found for FREE on PC emulators.  It's common knowledge that Nintendo has an elitest mentality towards what its games are worth.  That's all I am saying.  

Feel free to agree with me or not but either way one of these things are true:

1) Nintendo lives in a dreamland where it thinks games on their consoles are objectively the best games ever and don't lose much value over time.

2) Nintendo has little control over how games are priced on their console.  They are incompetant and have way below par relatiobships with the people they do business with.

Take your pick.


dont mean to but in but http://www.destructoid.com/wii-u-eshop-game-devs-can-set-their-own-prices-238880.phtml  according to this link and what i heard developers and publishers control the pricing of their own games on the wii u eshop and darksiders 2 is most certainly not a nintendo game



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That's neat, I hope a lot of people pick it up. Despite quite some framerate/screentearing/loading/pop-in problems, to me it was a thoroughly epic and fun game, which I enjoyed a whole lot!



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Captain_Tom said:

You're right.  Nintendo has no control over what games cost on THEIR system.  They are perfect angels.  /s

-Super Paper Mario sold 3.5m and still sells for $20 on Amazon.

-Resistance: Fall of Man sold 4.23m and sells for $15 or $30 for all 3 games in the series.

Resistance scored slightly higher on metacritic and SPM can be found for FREE on PC emulators.  It's common knowledge that Nintendo has an elitest mentality towards what its games are worth.  That's all I am saying.  

Feel free to agree with me or not but either way one of these things are true:

1) Nintendo lives in a dreamland where it thinks games on their consoles are objectively the best games ever and don't lose much value over time.

2) Nintendo has little control over how games are priced on their console.  They are incompetant and have way below par relatiobships with the people they do business with.

Take your pick.

You're a bit ignorant you know,  because if you'd bothered to try a 5-second Google search, you'd have known developers/publishers choose their own pricepoints on Nintendo's systems. (As Baddman and HylianSwordsman before me pointed out) they get to freely decide when to do sales and for how long, and can offer their game(s) at whatever price they desire. If you deem this particular game too expensive at $20, then you should blame Nordic Games, as they publish it and set its price. They could have offered it for $5, but they chose $20. That's their decision, not Nintendo's. Nintendo decides about games like Paper Mario because they're 1st party games THEY themselves developed/published. Not so for 3rd party games (like Darksiders 2 in this case).

However I'd also like to point out to you that retailers (like Amazon you mentioned) set their own prices, and Nintendo's 1st party games selling for high prices long after release means they still sell decent amounts. That's why they're commonly referred to as 'evergreen' games, because they keep on seeing demand for years. Nintendo doesn't decide if Amazon (for example) keeps selling Mario games for $5 or $50 for 5 years; that's up to Amazon. If the games sell well, why lower the price? The Resistance games you mentioned apparently didn't sell well anymore, because if they did, they'd also still be sold for higher prices. It's economics 101.

Maybe think before you post in the future? Or at least bother to find out if you're right, if you're going to make such a fuss about it and then turn out to be completely wrong after all. It's a bit silly.

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Sorry about the double post, guys!



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Cheebee said:
Captain_Tom said:

You're right.  Nintendo has no control over what games cost on THEIR system.  They are perfect angels.  /s

-Super Paper Mario sold 3.5m and still sells for $20 on Amazon.

-Resistance: Fall of Man sold 4.23m and sells for $15 or $30 for all 3 games in the series.

Resistance scored slightly higher on metacritic and SPM can be found for FREE on PC emulators.  It's common knowledge that Nintendo has an elitest mentality towards what its games are worth.  That's all I am saying.  

Feel free to agree with me or not but either way one of these things are true:

1) Nintendo lives in a dreamland where it thinks games on their consoles are objectively the best games ever and don't lose much value over time.

2) Nintendo has little control over how games are priced on their console.  They are incompetant and have way below par relatiobships with the people they do business with.

Take your pick.

You're a bit ignorant you know,  because if you'd bothered to try a 5-second Google search, you'd have known developers/publishers choose their own pricepoints on Nintendo's systems. (As Baddman and HylianSwordsman before me pointed out) they get to freely decide when to do sales and for how long, and can offer their game(s) at whatever price they desire. If you deem this particular game too expensive at $20, then you should blame Nordic Games, as they publish it and set its price. They could have offered it for $5, but they chose $20. That's their decision, not Nintendo's. Nintendo decides about games like Paper Mario because they're 1st party games THEY themselves developed/published. Not so for 3rd party games (like Darksiders 2 in this case).

However I'd also like to point out to you that retailers (like Amazon you mentioned) set their own prices, and Nintendo's 1st party games selling for high prices long after release means they still sell decent amounts. That's why they're commonly referred to as 'evergreen' games, because they keep on seeing demand for years. Nintendo doesn't decide if Amazon (for example) keeps selling Mario games for $5 or $50 for 5 years; that's up to Amazon. If the games sell well, why lower the price? The Resistance games you mentioned apparently didn't sell well anymore, because if they did, they'd also still be sold for higher prices. It's economics 101.

Maybe think before you post in the future? Or at least bother to find out if you're right, if you're going to make such a fuss about it and then turn out to be completely wrong after all. It's a bit silly.

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Sorry about the double post, guys!


Just playing Devil's advocate here, but how do you explain Darkisders 2 being on (a respectable) sale on Steam and psn and not on eshop? Do you think it's possible that people who work for valve contact the publishers themselves and actively pursue a sale? Is it possible that people who work for ninty are not greedy, just not good at that part of their jobs? I bought a 3ds a few months ago and was looking for cheap games to buy and to my surprise there were almost none (cheap) either 1st or third party games. On Vita, on the other hand, I ended up buying more than 10 games from 3rd parties when they were on sale. Games like the walking dead or persona 4 golden.

Third party publishers keeping the price high on ninty platforms over sony/pc/xbl makes little sense to me.  



super_etecoon said:
The trailer for this game doesn't even reveal gameplay. Is it any good?


I bought it at launch for 60...and I feel that the game was and is still worth every penny of that.  It's fantastic, and for $20. you cannot beat it. 



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naruball said:
Cheebee said:
Captain_Tom said:

You're right.  Nintendo has no control over what games cost on THEIR system.  They are perfect angels.  /s

-Super Paper Mario sold 3.5m and still sells for $20 on Amazon.

-Resistance: Fall of Man sold 4.23m and sells for $15 or $30 for all 3 games in the series.

Resistance scored slightly higher on metacritic and SPM can be found for FREE on PC emulators.  It's common knowledge that Nintendo has an elitest mentality towards what its games are worth.  That's all I am saying.  

Feel free to agree with me or not but either way one of these things are true:

1) Nintendo lives in a dreamland where it thinks games on their consoles are objectively the best games ever and don't lose much value over time.

2) Nintendo has little control over how games are priced on their console.  They are incompetant and have way below par relatiobships with the people they do business with.

Take your pick.

You're a bit ignorant you know,  because if you'd bothered to try a 5-second Google search, you'd have known developers/publishers choose their own pricepoints on Nintendo's systems. (As Baddman and HylianSwordsman before me pointed out) they get to freely decide when to do sales and for how long, and can offer their game(s) at whatever price they desire. If you deem this particular game too expensive at $20, then you should blame Nordic Games, as they publish it and set its price. They could have offered it for $5, but they chose $20. That's their decision, not Nintendo's. Nintendo decides about games like Paper Mario because they're 1st party games THEY themselves developed/published. Not so for 3rd party games (like Darksiders 2 in this case).

However I'd also like to point out to you that retailers (like Amazon you mentioned) set their own prices, and Nintendo's 1st party games selling for high prices long after release means they still sell decent amounts. That's why they're commonly referred to as 'evergreen' games, because they keep on seeing demand for years. Nintendo doesn't decide if Amazon (for example) keeps selling Mario games for $5 or $50 for 5 years; that's up to Amazon. If the games sell well, why lower the price? The Resistance games you mentioned apparently didn't sell well anymore, because if they did, they'd also still be sold for higher prices. It's economics 101.

Maybe think before you post in the future? Or at least bother to find out if you're right, if you're going to make such a fuss about it and then turn out to be completely wrong after all. It's a bit silly.

--------

Sorry about the double post, guys!


Just playing Devil's advocate here, but how do you explain Darkisders 2 being on (a respectable) sale on Steam and psn and not on eshop? Do you think it's possible that people who work for valve contact the publishers themselves and actively pursue a sale? Is it possible that people who work for ninty are not greedy, just not good at that part of their jobs? I bought a 3ds a few months ago and was looking for cheap games to buy and to my surprise there were almost none (cheap) either 1st or third party games. On Vita, on the other hand, I ended up buying more than 10 games from 3rd parties when they were on sale. Games like the walking dead or persona 4 golden.

Third party publishers keeping the price high on ninty platforms over sony/pc/xbl makes little sense to me.  

Well there could be plenty of explanations, for one Darksiders 2 had been pulled from the eShop since THQ went bankrupt, so it hasn't been available digitally for a long time on there. They may want to test the waters first, see if people are still interested in this game instead of just putting it out there again after all this time for $5 or so.

Anyway, there are always plenty of eShop discounts going on every single week of both 1st and 3rd party games, a lot of them permanent, too (Nintendolife has a nice list of them every week, here's this week's: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/03/nintendo_download_20th_march_europe )

Often they're in the $5-$10 range, too (sometimes even sub-$5). This goes for physical games, too, you just have to know where to look. It's common knowledge that games that continue to see demand sell for higher prices, but the opposite is true, too. In fact quite a few (1st party) Wii U games are already selling for less than than full price, which didn't happen for years and years during the Wii era, evidence of Wii U's struggles in the marketplace.

As for your point about cheap Vita games compared to expensive 3DS games (anecdotal as it is; I bought ACIV on WiiU for $15 new 2 days ago), well that proves my point, as Vita is pretty much a commercial failure, and 3DS is the bestselling gaming system of the 8th gen. Hence the difference in their respective software prices.



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Baddman said:
Captain_Tom said:
HylianSwordsman said:
Captain_Tom said:
HylianSwordsman said:
Captain_Tom said:
Meanwhile it was nearly free on Humble Bundle and is regularly $5 on Steam. This is why a lot of people say Nintendo is behind. They NEVER reduce the prices on their games enough over time...


Right, because Nintendo published Darksiders 2, you know, so it's their fault the price is still so high.

Um yes it is.  Steam does not own Darsiders and neither does Sony.  Yes it was under $20 in OCTOBER on PS3...


Right, and of course Nintendo makes the prices for games they don't own the rights to sell.

You're right.  Nintendo has no control over what games cost on THEIR system.  They are perfect angels.  /s

-Super Paper Mario sold 3.5m and still sells for $20 on Amazon.

-Resistance: Fall of Man sold 4.23m and sells for $15 or $30 for all 3 games in the series.

Resistance scored slightly higher on metacritic and SPM can be found for FREE on PC emulators.  It's common knowledge that Nintendo has an elitest mentality towards what its games are worth.  That's all I am saying.  

Feel free to agree with me or not but either way one of these things are true:

1) Nintendo lives in a dreamland where it thinks games on their consoles are objectively the best games ever and don't lose much value over time.

2) Nintendo has little control over how games are priced on their console.  They are incompetant and have way below par relatiobships with the people they do business with.

Take your pick.


dont mean to but in but http://www.destructoid.com/wii-u-eshop-game-devs-can-set-their-own-prices-238880.phtml  according to this link and what i heard developers and publishers control the pricing of their own games on the wii u eshop and darksiders 2 is most certainly not a nintendo game


Yes but Nintendo could ask them to lower it, and they haven't.  That is the point I am making.



Cheebee said:

As for your point about cheap Vita games compared to expensive 3DS games (anecdotal as it is; I bought ACIV on WiiU for $15 new 2 days ago), well that proves my point, as Vita is pretty much a commercial failure, and 3DS is the bestselling gaming system of the 8th gen. Hence the difference in their respective software prices.


Yes, but my point is that out of all the games released on vita, I'm sure quite a few have outsold some 3ds games that sold very badly. I use this site  http://www.gamecrawler.co.uk/ to check prices and whenever I look up a game for 3ds, no matter how popular or niche it is, it is (almost) never below £10 or at least £15. Conversely, quite a few vita games that have sold quite well or sold terribly are dirt cheap. Same goes with ps3 games. All I have to do, living in the uk, is wait a few months for the price to go down. With most 3ds games that I look up, this hardly ever happens (to acceptable levels for me). I'm thinking that Sony and MS are encouraging 3d parties to put their games on sale, while Ninty has a different approach. And judging based on the weekly UK charts, 3ds games aren't doing that well. Yet I don't see them getting the discounts I've been hoping them to get. I'm only bringing this point up because I find it quite frustrating as a 3ds owner. 



Kwaidd said:
super_etecoon said:
The trailer for this game doesn't even reveal gameplay. Is it any good?


I bought it at launch for 60...and I feel that the game was and is still worth every penny of that.  It's fantastic, and for $20. you cannot beat it. 


Thanks....of course that means I'll have to get an external harddrive.  Guess I'll have to do it sooner or later.



Awesome game!!

The first DS was pretty good, but DS2 was one of the best games I've played in years. Hard to find many faults with the game. Story, action, puzzles (minor) were all very well done. One of the few games of this type that I've actually gone back through and played over.