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oniyide said:

ive own every handheld Ninty made. IMHO 3rd party is nto that relevant. Firstly cause western devs never really messed with it and def arent not. and how well do those games do? Especially in comparison to Ninty's own titles? Are you really going to tell me that the handhelds make up for the lack of 3rd party on consoles? Come on, they are not even the same games. Where are the AC, COD, MG, etc. ANd when I say where are they im not talking some 2d spinoff. or old port. Even with PC you still miss stuff. I find it hard to believe that all those franchises that skip the system most Ninty fans dont want to play them. I think sales says otherwise.

The truth is somewhere in the middle thats true. I bring up demographs for WIi because that was a blue ocean machine, there were not blue ocean machines prior to Wii. Look at the best selling software versus the HD ones, VERY different. The portables that has always been Ninty's field they never had any real competition until PSP and even then.

Yes, they don't offer the same type of games, that's the beauty of it. As I stated before, it depends on what kind of gamer you are. If you prefer to play platformers, JRPGs (including SRPGs), puzzle games and other niche Japanese games, DS and 3DS are a must have. Not every gamer is in love with sims, FPSs, open world games and WRPGs. I'm definitely not. And it's obviously not a Nintendo fan thing, just a matter of personal taste. I actually got a PS2 for games outside those. Japanese games. Games that are currently largely on handhelds (ignoring smartphones here...), and now more than ever coming to PC (SF IV, Revengeance, KoF XIII, Naruto UNS3, Killer is Dead, Deadly Premonition, Binary Domain, Resident Evil, etc), with even talks of MGS V and FF XV releases. My point here was not to say that these games compensate the lack of 3rd party support on Nintendo consoles directly, but indirectly. That a Nintendo fan can still have a lot to play without getting a Sony/Microsoft platform. That different gamers have different needs, and most people don't need to play everything out there.

The success of Japanese 3rd parties on Nintendo handhelds is undeniable, and whether they get to the level of Nintendo games or not is irrelevant. They wouldn't be there if it wasn't worth it. Would you really argue that the likes of Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest, Professor Layton, Ace Attorney, Shin Megami Tensei, Bravely Default, Harvest Moon, etc are of little relevance ? On what grounds ? I mean, it's fine if you don't personally care about them, but a few of these are million-selling franchises, while others are beloved niche titles. Just because they don't sell as much as Assasin's Creed or Call of Duty doesn't mean they don't matter. They are part of the reason many gamers pick a 3DS, being part of its exclusive lineup, unlike the series you mentioned.

Anyway... We're getting off-topic now, and this is a long discussion... I'll read anything you want to add, but I won't post again. Good talk though. ^_^



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theARTIST0017 said:
Lets be honest, Snake isn't returning.


And good riddance.



Ah, Kojima and his penis. He wants it in everything.



Azzanation said:
Kojima needs to understand if you support Nintendo, Nintendo will support you. Like they did with Brawl because of twin Snakes. Sorry Kojima I hope Nintendo don't put your character in there game. Free advertising of your character should be done by yourself, like making a game for that hardware in the first place..

did MGS3d not release on 3ds?



oniyide said:
Azzanation said:
Kojima needs to understand if you support Nintendo, Nintendo will support you. Like they did with Brawl because of twin Snakes. Sorry Kojima I hope Nintendo don't put your character in there game. Free advertising of your character should be done by yourself, like making a game for that hardware in the first place..

did MGS3d not release on 3ds?


Nintendo fans are not stupid. They know when they're getting the main dish and they know when they're getting the leftovers. Make a poll thread and see how many people want Snake in smash.



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DevilRising said:
theARTIST0017 said:
Lets be honest, Snake isn't returning.


And good riddance.


Well, tbh I don't care if he's in it or not. But the way Kojima was commenting on it makes us to believe he hasn't even tried to talk to Sakurai. Not any of our problems. If Sakurai doesn't include him, then I understand why.



NINTENDO

nintendo forever . . .

theARTIST0017 said:
oniyide said:
Azzanation said:
Kojima needs to understand if you support Nintendo, Nintendo will support you. Like they did with Brawl because of twin Snakes. Sorry Kojima I hope Nintendo don't put your character in there game. Free advertising of your character should be done by yourself, like making a game for that hardware in the first place..

did MGS3d not release on 3ds?


Nintendo fans are not stupid. They know when they're getting the main dish and they know when they're getting the leftovers. Make a poll thread and see how many people want Snake in smash.


dont need one, i could really care less if he is in it as i didnt even use him in Brawl, BUT you cant pull Twin Snakes out of your butt to justify him in Brawl and then throw MGS3d under the bus, because Twin Snakes wasnt exactly a main dish either.



oniyide said:
theARTIST0017 said:
oniyide said:
Azzanation said:
Kojima needs to understand if you support Nintendo, Nintendo will support you. Like they did with Brawl because of twin Snakes. Sorry Kojima I hope Nintendo don't put your character in there game. Free advertising of your character should be done by yourself, like making a game for that hardware in the first place..

did MGS3d not release on 3ds?


Nintendo fans are not stupid. They know when they're getting the main dish and they know when they're getting the leftovers. Make a poll thread and see how many people want Snake in smash.


dont need one, i could really care less if he is in it as i didnt even use him in Brawl, BUT you cant pull Twin Snakes out of your butt to justify him in Brawl and then throw MGS3d under the bus, because Twin Snakes wasnt exactly a main dish either.

What? I don't consider Twin Snakes a main dish. Yes I had the game and enjoyed it but it was a remake. Anyways, even if Twin Snakes is Nintendo's main dish where is Wii's Metal Gear? Nowhere to be found sooo he shouldn't even have been in Brawl.

All I'm saying is, Wii U doesn't have a Metal Gear, so maybe it just makes more sense to put the witch from Bayo. My opinion.



NINTENDO

nintendo forever . . .

Point is, Castlevania has a MUCH longer and stronger history and connection with Nintendo than Metal Gear ever has. Simon Belmont starred in not one but 3 Nintendo console CV games, making him the most featured and most famous CV hero. Having Mega Man AND Simon Belmont in Smash would be awesome. Just throw in Bomberman, and we could call it good.



Justagamer said:
Sure kojima, put snake in smash bros, get a bunch of free advertisement for a character that will never have an actual game of his own on the console or handheld. If I were Nintendo, I'd tell kojima to go suck a dick.



Lmfao!!!! Thanks for the laugh. I was going to say the same thing. This guy has the nerve to blow off Nintendo and tell them No MGS for the WiiU then beg for his "Snake" to be in SSB. F@$! You Kojima go kick rocks. Also the true "Snake" is played by Kurt Russell. And Im out **drops microphone**