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Forums - Nintendo - [EDITED]Wii U owners, do not buy WatchDogs!

Trunkin said:
MDMAlliance said:
Trunkin said:
"Greedy and egocentric." Honestly, at the point, I'd say those words fit Nintendo better than they do Ubisoft.


Who are you, Zod? lol

lol, he may have been doing some serious reaching with some of his points, but you gotta admit there was some truth to his very, very long OP. XD


Most of the things he said that are true are coupled with illogical jumps to conclusions.  

The most accurate thing he posted was about Nintendo's past and something that is no longer something Nintendo practices.



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I wouldn't be surprised if there is no version to buy when it's all said and done



Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.

Hedra42 said:
Slarvax said:

Rayman was delayed for a simultaneous release, because Ubisoft wanted to reduce the risk of it being a flop due to the low Wii U install base. Although their apparent lack of confidence in the Wii U angered a lot of Wii U owners (me included), it was a perfectly reasonable business decision. Even with the simultaneous release, Ubisoft announced that Rayman Legends missed its sales target. It is still just under 1 million sales. Looking at today's VGChartz global estimates for the game, it's interesting to note that its sales are broken down as 33%, 30% and 25% for the PS3, Wii U and X360 respectively, with the remainder shared between the Vita, PS4 and X1.

As a result of that delay, Rayman Legends got 30 more levels, several new bosses and more polishing. So, as a result of Ubisoft hedging their bets, we all got a better game for it. Had it not been delayed, and had it not been made multi-platform, sales would have been worse, the game wouldn't have been as good, and Watch Dogs might never have even been on the cards for Wii U in the first place.

As for delaying Watch Dogs on the Wii U - senior producer Dominic Guay said:

"It's also an interesting platform, because it has its own strength, which we want to take advantage of, and we didn't want to delay all the other platforms for that one. So we're going to take the time we need to make sure the game is good (technically) when we ship it and that it also, game design-wise, makes good use of the specifics of the Wii U." (Source)

Ubisoft recognise the Wii U strengths - in Guay's words "...we want to be ambitious with it" - this tells me that they want a polished version of Watch Dogs that will make the best of the Wii U's features. I, for one, would rather deal with the frustration and wait for that, than pick up some half-baked, lazy-arsed port.

Ubisoft are delaying Watch Dogs for Wii U so they can go that extra mile to make sure it is outstanding, and rather than being boycotted, they should be applauded for it.


^ This ^ people!

There are so many blat ass sissies on these forums it makes me sick.  You all get a little sand in your vaginas?  Suck it up you sons of bitches!  90 percent of you complaining never even had it pre-ordered to begin with, so put your money where your mouth is or quit your bitching.  What a pathetic rabble you "gamers" are.  /spit



oniyide said:
OP considering the preorders the thing had for the Wii U i dont think you have to worry about it...

and no lets not use that sad install base excuse, that dog dont hunt when the PS4 and Xone versions have MUCH higher preorders


It's a well known fact that, historically speaking, most so-called "Nintendo gamers" don't tend to pre-order NEARLY as much as the PS/XB generation of gamers do.



DevilRising said:
oniyide said:
OP considering the preorders the thing had for the Wii U i dont think you have to worry about it...

and no lets not use that sad install base excuse, that dog dont hunt when the PS4 and Xone versions have MUCH higher preorders


It's a well known fact that, historically speaking, most so-called "Nintendo gamers" don't tend to pre-order NEARLY as much as the PS/XB generation of gamers do.

So? THat makes my point even stronger. If Ubi sees the numbers they are most likely not going to want to support it. What you really thought that Watchdogs would have sold as well as the other versions. Cause historically speaking, 3rd party multiplats do much worst on WIi U. Hell look at MP games between Wii U, PS4 and ONE big difference and you cant even say userbase.



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You had me at the headline.

 

Though it's not like I was going to buy it anyway.

 

Looks super fucking lame.



oniyide said:

So? THat makes my point even stronger. If Ubi sees the numbers they are most likely not going to want to support it. What you really thought that Watchdogs would have sold as well as the other versions. Cause historically speaking, 3rd party multiplats do much worst on WIi U. Hell look at MP games between Wii U, PS4 and ONE big difference and you cant even say userbase.


MY point was, that even for Nintendo brand games, most "Nintendo Gamers" tend to pick games up after they release, not go out and pre-order them at Gamestop every time a new "AAA" blockbuster title gets announced. Meaning, that most of them are not part of the "Gamestop Generation" culture.



DevilRising said:
oniyide said:
 

So? THat makes my point even stronger. If Ubi sees the numbers they are most likely not going to want to support it. What you really thought that Watchdogs would have sold as well as the other versions. Cause historically speaking, 3rd party multiplats do much worst on WIi U. Hell look at MP games between Wii U, PS4 and ONE big difference and you cant even say userbase.


MY point was, that even for Nintendo brand games, most "Nintendo Gamers" tend to pick games up after they release, not go out and pre-order them at Gamestop every time a new "AAA" blockbuster title gets announced. Meaning, that most of them are not part of the "Gamestop Generation" culture.

So Ninty gamers dont preorder, thats fine. But they still end up buying their Ninty games and not much else. Recent sales show that. My point is that preorders show an interest in a game. Hell you're not even right about that. Even Ninty's own games show up on the preorder charts. MK8 is there right now. DKC before that. Where are the 3rd party games for WIi U?

My point is that at no point was Watchdogs on the preorder chart when every other version was on it.



If you refuse to buy Ubi games then you should also refuse to buy Nintendo games as Ubi has done as much fir the wii u as Nintendo in many ways



oniyide said:
DevilRising said:
oniyide said:
DevilRising said:
oniyide said:
OP considering the preorders the thing had for the Wii U i dont think you have to worry about it...

and no lets not use that sad install base excuse, that dog dont hunt when the PS4 and Xone versions have MUCH higher preorders


It's a well known fact that, historically speaking, most so-called "Nintendo gamers" don't tend to pre-order NEARLY as much as the PS/XB generation of gamers do.

So? THat makes my point even stronger. If Ubi sees the numbers they are most likely not going to want to support it. What you really thought that Watchdogs would have sold as well as the other versions. Cause historically speaking, 3rd party multiplats do much worst on WIi U. Hell look at MP games between Wii U, PS4 and ONE big difference and you cant even say userbase.


MY point was, that even for Nintendo brand games, most "Nintendo Gamers" tend to pick games up after they release, not go out and pre-order them at Gamestop every time a new "AAA" blockbuster title gets announced. Meaning, that most of them are not part of the "Gamestop Generation" culture.

So Ninty gamers dont preorder, thats fine. But they still end up buying their Ninty games and not much else. Recent sales show that. My point is that preorders show an interest in a game. Hell you're not even right about that. Even Ninty's own games show up on the preorder charts. MK8 is there right now. DKC before that. Where are the 3rd party games for WIi U?

My point is that at no point was Watchdogs on the preorder chart when every other version was on it.

The latest interview with the Watch Dogs producer disproves the second emboldened statement. (source link in my previous post, quoted by Kwaidd, 7 posts before this one)

As for the first emboldened statement: The the top 30 Preorders chart (which is US only) is influenced by a variety of factors, including but not limited to, install base, hype, availability for preorder, popularity of franchise, number of weeks until release, demographic, etc. To take your example, Mario Kart 8 is there at #23 because it's part of a hugely successful franchise, but would probably have had a higher placing if the install base was greater. Just because the preorders don't make the top 30 doesn't mean they're not being preordered. Rayman Legends didn't make the preorder charts on any of the platforms, and it still sold better on PS3 than it did Wii U.

But this is off topic. This thread wasn't created to discuss preorders, it is about whether Nintendo fans should boycott Watch Dogs for Wii U because the game is being delayed, or support Ubisoft in its decision and wait, because the delay will most likely mean a more polished game suited for the Wii U.