I found the whole "waiting for games not out yet" comment to be directed at someone and I think we both agree it was :P I'm just saying, no matter what console you pick, there WILL be good games. The 360's lineup is great, it really is, in my opinion PS3's CURRENT lineup is also. Theres plenty to choose on both fronts, but the 360's hardware, and the cost of online play made it a turn-off, I personally don't like Nintendo games, and motion control isn't going to win me over anytime soon :/ So I went with a PS3. I needed a multi-media device and a gaming platform that isn't a PC. :P

I do agree that the flaming and company loyalty is definitely out of hand, and I really love that some of us care more about games than brand, but there are other factors :P

Get off your computer.

Go outside.

Talk to real people and not forum goers.

The internet tends to draw out the extremes in any spectrum. This includes console owners. Thus you will find a lot more corporate loyalists online than off. They're not especially large in number, just very vocal on the 'net.

Retarded.

Game loyalty was probably way more extreme in the 16-bit days, esp cos gaming was a younger crowd who could only own one console.

Before the 16-bit days there was usually only one popular system (Atari, Nintendo) so there was barely anything to debate.

Even when I wasn't aware I was buying or playing Nintendo games I have always bought them along with Sega games.

I've always liked colourful bold cartoonish like characters in my games which is why I can't understand why people get so exicted that games are looking more and more like real life.
I play real life every day, I want a break from that in the games I play.

When I think about it, it's the internet and more so this site that has made me defensive towards Nintendo and more likely to have a negative opinion of Sony and Microsoft consoles.

Well I do owe Nintendo an infinate debt for all the memories it gave me gorwing up, I didn't have loyalties when I was 7 because I hadn't had the memories it's given me up to today, simple.

"You think that for example being a loyal Nintendo fan even at the not-so-good times,is stupid?"

To be honest it is stupid. If the other system has the games/features you want, you should switch. Loyality to a company that in the end only services its shareholders is stupid.

If you make a multiple hundred dollar investment you will of course take future potential into account.

100000% Nintendo Fan Boy since the NES

Okay, I'll ask what we're all thinking.

Who's side are you on, anyway?

I don't know many 7 years olds that have enough pocket money to buy brand new games.