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MDMAlliance on 05 March 2014
Dr.Grass said:
And those two games that were mentioned (Xenoblade and Monster Hunter) were developed by which studios exactly? And do you have many other examples like these?

The truth is that there is (at least) a little reality in perception. What games did PS360/PC gamers enjoy over the last 7 years? Mass Effect, Bioshock, Gears, Dragon Age, Souls series, Uncharted etc. etc. Games like Modnation Racers were not the poster-boy games of the HD gaming era. No, there were massive sprawling worlds like Skyrim and GTA4&5 to explore. The Batman series became extremely accomplished, standing toe-to-toe with anything on Nintendo hardware. How many should I mention? Are you saying that Nintendo's games are not cheaper to develop compared to what is on the competition's hardware?

If I misunderstood this parody then I apologize. But if it is a sly attempt to reimburse Nintendo fans with the belief that their videogame provider of choice is standing on top of the world then I need to point out that they are very, very far away from that.

I do not wish to propose how they could possibly evolve to become as relevant as you want them to be.


@Bold: The original just says "Wii games" as he was referring to the technology itself than Nintendo.  Not only that, but he made the general statement that PS3/360 games have more content and whatever than Wii games.  There are MANY PS360 games that have very little content to it, and you can find quite a lot of Wii games with moderate to a lot of content (such as the ones I listed).



As for the rest of it, maybe you haven't seen Zod's original thread.  In which case, here's a link: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=178963



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theARTIST0017 on 05 March 2014
MDMAlliance said:
LemonSlice said:
MDMAlliance said:

Yeah, I only used it as an example of how Flash games look like, given it's modeled after one.

So which game is it?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lock's_Quest

On a separate note, I would have updated this more but I am a bit busy this week.

I just want to say, Magi is plain awesome.

OT: Good reply. I never saw og thread but by the way I read yours it sounds like the og thread was more of a hate thread.



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nintendo forever . . .

MDMAlliance on 05 March 2014

Updated a bit more.



Dr.Grass on 06 March 2014
DarkD said:
Dr.Grass said:
The ironic thing is that many of those points are more true than not true. What the OP has done here is a classic case of appeal to riducule.

And those two games that were mentioned (Xenoblade and Monster Hunter) were developed by which studios exactly? And do you have many other examples like these?

The truth is that there is (at least) a little reality in perception. What games did PS360/PC gamers enjoy over the last 7 years? Mass Effect, Bioshock, Gears, Dragon Age, Souls series, Uncharted etc. etc. Games like Modnation Racers were not the poster-boy games of the HD gaming era. No, there were massive sprawling worlds like Skyrim and GTA4&5 to explore. The Batman series became extremely accomplished, standing toe-to-toe with anything on Nintendo hardware. How many should I mention? Are you saying that Nintendo's games are not cheaper to develop compared to what is on the competition's hardware?

If I misunderstood this parody then I apologize. But if it is a sly attempt to reimburse Nintendo fans with the belief that their videogame provider of choice is standing on top of the world then I need to point out that they are very, very far away from that.

I do not wish to propose how they could possibly evolve to become as relevant as you want them to be.

The point is that you don't need those hyper realistic graphics to make a game absurdly fun.  Even if those games had higher development costs, I wouldn't say they were equal games.

Skyrim was a time killer more than anything.  It's become extremely formulaic and while its still interesting, it's stopped evolving almost completely compared to something like Zelda.  I would call Skyrim a glorified patch rather than a new game.  Sure it has a new map, but the gameplay is almost identical to the last games.  It's more of a refinement than anything new.  

The comparison is Zelda, in Ocarina of Time you travel forwards and backwards in time battling Gannon, in Majora's mask you have 3 days which you can repeat as often as you like to stop the moon from falling.  In Wind Waker the world has been turned into an ocean and you have to take up a ship and search for your missing sister, in twilight princess, Link is turned into a wolf and has to play the game from an animals perspective, in Skyward Sword you come from a race that lives in the sky who fly around on birds.

The difference is that Nintendo hasn't forgotten what makes their games fun.  You can see the difference especially clearly in the few times they tried making their games like you want them.  Metroid: Other M was a great game, but nobody liked the voice acting.  Was it bad voice acting or was it a bad game?  No, they just preferred not giving Samus a voice.  Look at Super Mario: Sunshine, I shouldn't even have to explain how wrong giving a voice to him was...  

Some series a voice might work on, others I think not.  I think Halo for instance would have been better without giving master chief a voice.  

Is cheaper to develop a bad thing either?  Look at how many studios are closing or going indie or moving to the iPhone market.  It's not a joke you can laugh off.  Those games aren't sustainable.  

You are throwing the baby out with the bathwater.



Anfebious on 06 March 2014

This thread is a phony: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=178963&page=1

This thread needs more views, the real truth must be shown to the public.



"I've Underestimated the Horse Power from Mario Kart 8, I'll Never Doubt the WiiU's Engine Again"

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TheGhosts on 06 March 2014

This is the most stupid thread i have seen in a while!!! So it is a bad thing now that you make money with your business??? And Nintendo is not investing in games??? They make the best gamesin the industry!!! They are just not stupid like other comapanys who spend millions just to buy exclusive games for their systems. And Nintendo takes always risks in order to try something new, the wii had a revolutionary controller and the wii u has a gamepad, no one else is at least trying to do something different. Nintendo always innovate and takes risks, they deserve to earn money with their business!!!



cannonballZ on 06 March 2014
TheGhosts said:
This is the most stupid thread i have seen in a while!!! So it is a bad thing now that you make money with your business??? And Nintendo is not investing in games??? They make the best gamesin the industry!!! They are just not stupid like other comapanys who spend millions just to buy exclusive games for their systems. And Nintendo takes always risks in order to try something new, the wii had a revolutionary controller and the wii u has a gamepad, no one else is at least trying to do something different. Nintendo always innovate and takes risks, they deserve to earn money with their business!!!


You must have not read this one-http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=178963&page=1

There is some real quality info in there!! Like-

" And I did so because they comprise fighters with real techniques and real moves. You can actually learn a lot about martial arts playing those games (in a way that you can't on books or videos, because on videogames you do it yourself and you apply each move when you feel the need to do so)."



supernihilist on 06 March 2014

nice, liked it



Smear-Gel on 06 March 2014
Anfebious said:
This thread is a phony: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=178963&page=1

This thread needs more views, the real truth must be shown to the public.


I read through 21 pages of that thread and it was just the dumbest thing I ever had the displeasure of reading. I read through the post and comments and had to agree with the people pointing out the numerous problems in the post and the difference between fact and opinion had some glimmer of hope that maybe the OP would look and go "hmm, these people have a point" but nope, didint happen. 

I gotta applaud people who kept replying knowing it would be futile.



Anfebious on 06 March 2014
Smear-Gel said:
Anfebious said:
This thread is a phony: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=178963&page=1

This thread needs more views, the real truth must be shown to the public.


I read through 21 pages of that thread and it was just the dumbest thing I ever had the displeasure of reading. I read through the post and comments and had to agree with the people pointing out the numerous problems in the post and the difference between fact and opinion had some glimmer of hope that maybe the OP would look and go "hmm, these people have a point" but nope, didint happen. 

I gotta applaud people who kept replying knowing it would be futile.

I wonder why people keep on replying to that thread, it's already reaching 400 posts and it has no signs of stopping.



"I've Underestimated the Horse Power from Mario Kart 8, I'll Never Doubt the WiiU's Engine Again"