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Should white people be allowed in the conversation of multiethnicity?

Yes-White people are multiethnic, too 52 70.27%
 
No - they don't understand the struggles 2 2.70%
 
I didn't even know this was a problem 13 17.57%
 
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MikeRox said:
DevilRising said:
There is no such thing as "white" people. The only people who even fit that label, are people who consider themselves to be "white", IE aren't educated to or just don't care at all about their own roots and family background.


Tell that the the UK Government and Europe. I am "White British". There is also "White Other". So you will find that I am defined as "White" in law.

Same here in the United States, if I fill out a job application I have to put that I am caucasian (white)



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badgenome said:
RCTjunkie said:

Should I even bother?

Not unless you enjoy constantly being told to "check your privilege" or want to be accused of "whitesplaining" every time you express a differing opinion.

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McDonaldsGuy said:

What I don't get is why people like to claim race doesn't exist but then they make every issue about race.

If race doesn't exist, then what you want to do should not be an issue.

By the way I don't think it should be an issue.


Race doesn't exist biologically (or as most anthropologists say).  However, in our society's minds (and in many of our minds) it does.  However, there aren't set parameters that actually divide the "races" people talk about.  Someone who's "black" doesn't have a black gene, just like a person who's white doesn't have a "white" gene (or pretty much any other "race" you could think of).  

How you interpret this depends on you, but defining race for humans is always going to have holes in it.



pokymon90 said:
You could get beat up in Chicago for being white.


I grew up in the Humboldt Park area in Chicago and white people got picked on more than any other race, no lie. 



This is ridiculous. White people are an ethnicity like everyone else, and they should be a part of the process. I understand that white people won all the big wars over the last 300 years and the other races have been getting the shaft ever since. They started wars too I'm sure. White people were just better and more thorough at winning them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_contemporary_Africa

africans have a history of slavery just like White people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_among_Native_Americans_in_the_United_States

Native americans also enslaved war captives

I don't think white people owe either group any kind of apology whatsoever. If they won the war, I'm sure they would have been just as brutal.



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DarkD said:
This is ridiculous. White people are an ethnicity like everyone else, and they should be a part of the process. I understand that white people won all the big wars over the last 300 years and the other races have been getting the shaft ever since. They started wars too I'm sure. White people were just better and more thorough at winning them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_contemporary_Africa

africans have a history of slavery just like White people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_among_Native_Americans_in_the_United_States

Native americans also enslaved war captives

I don't think white people owe either group any kind of apology whatsoever. If they won the war, I'm sure they would have been just as brutal.

And it would ended just like your forefathers had to end theirs.

You just discovered that Africa has slavery still, good find and welcome to the world. You think people don't condemn that? You think people turn a blind eye to it because they're not white masters?

Slavery in US didn't end until 60's PRACTICALLY. Other parts until 1980's (African colonies).

Do you get picked on for being white? Yeah you will, like every other race.

Is there groups of people affilliated under a goal of eradicating white people?

If you think white people don't owe any apologies why you're bitching about being picked on?

Isn't it an eye for an eye in your opinion?



rolltide101x said:There are far more black people on tv than their % of the population. WAY more than 12% of people on tv are black, terrible point


You are missing the point. Even if those statistics were true, which I'm not sure if they are, that be missing the core point of BET. The point of BET is not merely to boost the amount of Black actors on television; rather, it is primarily meant to provide entertainment particularly for the Black audience (whether or not it succeeds at that is another question). Now, let's think about whether or not the same thing would make sense for the White audience...no it would not. Almost all television channels try to produce entertaintment for the majority (Whites); so it would be pretty redundant to make a channel particularly for Whites. 

Further, if a company wanted to make a channel called "White Television", then no one would catch a fit. Yes, people would be shocked because there are already plenty of channels that would accomplish the same goal, but it definitely would not be forcibly shut down lol. But of course, this is all hypothetical conjecture which would be impossible to prove or disprove. So I would rather not get too deep into this hypothetical scenario.



rolltide101x said:
RG3Hunna said:
rolltide101x said:
RG3Hunna said:
I'm black and I think all races should contribute in the discussion of race however as a black man I always wanted to know the discrimination white people experience?

I hear a lot of my close white friends tell me white people are the most discriminated against and all the other races are the most racist but then I ask them how are they discriminated against and they have absolutely ZERO responses where they personally experienced discrimination lol.

Please give me some experiences on the discrimination whites experience, I always wondered how it would be to be white and what type of racial stereotypes/racism white people experience.


The U.S. government discriminates against white people each and every day. But I have posts earlier in this thread that talks about a personal experience of mine about being discriminated against.

 

The main type of discrimination that white people suffer is not directly what happens it is what does not happen and what we can not do. If white people made a channel called "White TV" or had the "White Miss America" then Jesse Jackson would go crazy screaming racism and they would be shut down

Do you not understand white people have that now, they don't have to call it "White TV" !!! When you turn on the TV, you see white models, whites in commericals, white dominated TV shows. Do me a favor and search "Beautiful women" on google....there's 3 black women that show up while there's 100's of white women that show up when you search and click "Images"

Lets use an an example we all would understand, when we play video games how many times is the main character white? You have so much white privelage and some of you complain about some "Discrimination" you guys experience as a white person and it's laughable. The only negative I've seen of being white is you can't use the N word. I would love to trade my black skin for your white skin and you can use the N word all you want and not be called a racist and i'll take your privelage of being able to walk in stores without being followed like i'm a criminal or being able to walk around with weed in my pocket and knowing I wont get stopped/harrassed and them searching my pockets because i'm white and I don't fit the discription. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuyMuLGXxTs

Here's an example of being white in america vs being black in america, but yea white people are the most discriminated race in this country and have it sooooooo hard.........

and if I google "Dumb guys" a bunch of white guys come up so what is your point?

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1301&bih=617&q=dumb+guys&oq=dumb+guys&gs_l=img.3..0l10.1092.3702.0.3901.11.11.0.0.0.0.485.2435.0j3j1j0j4.8.0....0...1ac.1.36.img..6.5.1061.Cv4aq9rWBwQ

You just made my point, why would there need to be "White TV' when on TV the majority of people are white and when you google image something the majority of people are white? You can google image any damn word you would like and majority of people in the google image are going to be white unless you google a particular nationality. Majority of African Americans you see on TV are either athletes or rappers and that is why there is a Black entertainment television.

In the 85 years the academy awards (A white awards show) have been active only 4 black actors have ever won an award for leading role. 

The grammys (A white awards show) doesn't even broadcast the hip hop portion (A black dominated genre) but they broadcast the other genres of music on live TV.

But whites have it soooooooooo hard and are discriminated against? LMAOOOO Give me a break, if you think what whites go through is discrimination you wouldn't last a month being black before you would pray to your god to be white again lol



Goatseye said:

And it would ended just like your forefathers had to end theirs.

You just discovered that Africa has slavery still, good find and welcome to the world. You think people don't condemn that? You think people turn a blind eye to it because they're not white masters?

Slavery in US didn't end until 60's PRACTICALLY. Other parts until 1980's (African colonies).

Do you get picked on for being white? Yeah you will, like every other race.

Is there groups of people affilliated under a goal of eradicating white people?

If you think white people don't owe any apologies why you're bitching about being picked on?

Isn't it an eye for an eye in your opinion?


Umm I half think you misread my post.  

Firstly, that link didn't just show that africans still have slavers, it also says that they have had it even back in the 1800s.  Of course people condemn that, I'm just countering the argument that White People have some big apology to make.  That and the argument that they were wronged in some horrible way.  It happened to everyone.  

No I never got picked on for being white, I live in Canada.  We're the ones who never got into slavery and actually snuck the slaves out of the US.  Were you being picked on for being white?  I am having trouble understanding where that line even came from because I never mentioned anything like that.  I'm more of an outside commentator wondering why the situation is so ridiculous down there...

All I'm saying is, wars are started by everyone.  Slavery was practiced by everyone.  Brutality happened on all sides.  Thus, there's no reason white people should be left out of the conversation mentioned by the thread starter.  



Can everyone please stop trying to support the assertion "X race is the most discriminated against" by using anecdotes? It just adds useless fluff to the thread. I could list some counter-anecdotes, but it would be useless, because we would not be able to ascertain the truth or frequency of the scenarios. This really shouldn't have to be said, but some people seem to think their experiences or friends experiences must be representative of the entire planet.