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S.T.A.G.E. on 27 February 2014
Goatseye said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 


Point being...MS is only extending their hand to the top studio. Irrational studios and SSM are two of the top studios in gaming, period. They have been filling black tusk with allstar workers and yet we still see no new IP after what? Two years? They have more studios. Just keep paying for new staff. I know its for Gears. Their level for creativity isnt that high, but at this point I can tell that they want this Gears game to be the holy grail.

Really? Do you know every single one of them?

I mean Rod must be a bum and Gears is irrelevant.

And 2 years is not the time the team was stablished but being put together(still in the process). BT is still staffing and being organized.


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sales2099 on 27 February 2014

It is hard to downplay this.

A brilliant PR move by MS.



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sales2099 on 27 February 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
endimion said:
 


in games maybe even though I could argue that MS has been in the VG business just as much as Sony and did some of the most renouned IP in the market in their niche back then with titles like flight simulator, age of empire, close combat, the madness saga etc.... and beside that MS is with google, apple, IBM the company hireing the best developpers in the world for the past 40 years almost... granted not for games mostly
not saying SSM is a bad studio by any means but you don't get a job at MS like you do at walgreens.... even in their VG studios...  so if they got fired because they sucked chances are they won't get past the first interview... if they get to that point...


Point being...MS is only extending their hand to the top studios and the word is that Gears of War hasnt even started its development but is rather only in talks right now, so I am sure its for that. Irrational studios and SSM are two of the top studios in gaming, period. They have been filling Black Tusk with allstar workers and yet we still see no new IP after what? Two years? They have more studios. Just keep paying for new staff. I know its for Gears. Their level for creativity isnt that high, but at this point I can tell that they want this Gears game to be the holy grail if they are taking from Irrational and Sony. Those two companies with staff in one place is murder to your competition.

Showing me all the great simulation and racer titles MS was involved with doesnt prove anything to me. I already know they are great at business. I've been playing Flight Simulator since I was pretty young. That has nothing to do with creativity and no...Forza and Gran Turismo say absolutely nothing about creativity.. If MS is perfect at one thing in gaming its publishing simulations. After their third gen they are still only good at the same things.Experimentation isnt very big on their list, but I am glad that if they are afraid of creativity that they are sticking with the devil the do know. Gears is my favorite franchise on Microsoft and Halo started to grow bland for me after Reach. After the reception for Killer Instinct one would've thought MS would buy Double Helix but Amazon got them. I am sure once some workers get laid off there, MS will take up the table scraps as well. They are good at it.

They own Turn 10, cmon your better then that. Unless you are referring to Flight Simulator or something I think its petty to ignore the pedigree of Forza (at least in the 360 gen). No mention for Halo? The top exclusive FPS among the big 3 by a looooong shot?

"MS will take up the table scraps as well"

Is that how you honestly view that? Keeping talented people employed and acquiring staff to make games, something you ALWAYS criticize MS for not doing.......I mean there is just no pleasing you. Even something like MS hiring from Irrational and Sony SM you find a way to shit on MS.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 27 February 2014
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
endimion said:
 


in games maybe even though I could argue that MS has been in the VG business just as much as Sony and did some of the most renouned IP in the market in their niche back then with titles like flight simulator, age of empire, close combat, the madness saga etc.... and beside that MS is with google, apple, IBM the company hireing the best developpers in the world for the past 40 years almost... granted not for games mostly
not saying SSM is a bad studio by any means but you don't get a job at MS like you do at walgreens.... even in their VG studios...  so if they got fired because they sucked chances are they won't get past the first interview... if they get to that point...


Point being...MS is only extending their hand to the top studios and the word is that Gears of War hasnt even started its development but is rather only in talks right now, so I am sure its for that. Irrational studios and SSM are two of the top studios in gaming, period. They have been filling Black Tusk with allstar workers and yet we still see no new IP after what? Two years? They have more studios. Just keep paying for new staff. I know its for Gears. Their level for creativity isnt that high, but at this point I can tell that they want this Gears game to be the holy grail if they are taking from Irrational and Sony. Those two companies with staff in one place is murder to your competition.

Showing me all the great simulation and racer titles MS was involved with doesnt prove anything to me. I already know they are great at business. I've been playing Flight Simulator since I was pretty young. That has nothing to do with creativity and no...Forza and Gran Turismo say absolutely nothing about creativity.. If MS is perfect at one thing in gaming its publishing simulations. After their third gen they are still only good at the same things.Experimentation isnt very big on their list, but I am glad that if they are afraid of creativity that they are sticking with the devil the do know. Gears is my favorite franchise on Microsoft and Halo started to grow bland for me after Reach. After the reception for Killer Instinct one would've thought MS would buy Double Helix but Amazon got them. I am sure once some workers get laid off there, MS will take up the table scraps as well. They are good at it.

They own Turn 10, cmon your better then that. Unless you are referring to Flight Simulator or something I think its petty to ignore the pedigree of Forza (at least in the 360 gen). No mention for Halo? The top exclusive FPS among the big 3 by a looooong shot?

"MS will take up the table scraps as well"

Is that how you honestly view that? Keeping talented people employed and acquiring staff to make games, something you ALWAYS criticize MS for not doing.......I mean there is just no pleasing you. Even something like MS hiring from Irrational and Sony SM you find a way to shit on MS.


They created Turn 10. Its the only company MS created that has top level status in development. They make great racers. I didnt enjoy them as much as Project Gotham, but hey what can one do?  I said that I like that MS is making an Allstar staff. If they lack creativity and wont put out new IP's might as well stick with the devil they do know which i focusing on popular IP's that they do have. Everyone knew Microsoft was purely dependent on Epic to keep making Gears games for them because they couldnt put out a hot IP themselves. Eventually the time came to buy Gears because Epic wasnt about to waste their time. Epic is a creative company and wants to move on to bigger and better things. Microsoft wants to hold them down because when it comes to being creative they are very dependent on outside studios to think for them. At least they got two great studios workers to help them work on a big title. That big title just so happens to be my favorite Xbox game period.



Wright on 27 February 2014
FATALITY said:
Wright said:
Kyuu said:
I suppose that's their response to Sony stealing Corrinne Yu :P


But at least in that case, none game was cancelled


i dont remember any announcement in first place.


What about that unique sci-fi game they were cooking?



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sales2099 on 27 February 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
 

They own Turn 10, cmon your better then that. Unless you are referring to Flight Simulator or something I think its petty to ignore the pedigree of Forza (at least in the 360 gen). No mention for Halo? The top exclusive FPS among the big 3 by a looooong shot?

"MS will take up the table scraps as well"

Is that how you honestly view that? Keeping talented people employed and acquiring staff to make games, something you ALWAYS criticize MS for not doing.......I mean there is just no pleasing you. Even something like MS hiring from Irrational and Sony SM you find a way to shit on MS.


They created Turn 10. Its the only company MS created that has top level status in development. They make great racers. I didnt enjoy them as much as Project Gotham, but hey what can one do?  I said that I like that MS is making an Allstar staff. If they lack creativity and wont put out new IP's might as well stick with the devil they do know which i focusing on popular IP's that they do have. Everyone knew Microsoft was purely dependent on Epic to keep making Gears games for them because they couldnt put out a hot IP themselves. Eventually the time came to buy Gears because Epic wasnt about to waste their time. Epic is a creative company and wants to move on to bigger and better things. Microsoft wants to hold them down because when it comes to being creative they are very dependent on outside studios to think for them. At least they got two great studios workers to help them work on a big title. That big title just so happens to be my favorite Xbox game period.

They make great simulators.....many reviewers and sim experts can attest to that. But simulation involves driving so you aren't exactly wrong. They also made 343 from the ground up composed of talent from various top studios/ex Bungie staff. How can you speak of lacking creativity when they are making in-house Project Spark?

Epic wants to do something different. Nuff said. Gears was a 90+ franchise that was bigger then freaking Uncharted last gen......so saying bigger and better is highly debatable. Different is more the operative term as Epic simply wants to move on creatively.

And as we keep going back to the same point.....whether MS secures new IP's in-house or via contracts to keep it off PS4.......it is the exact same end-result for the gamer. Ryse, Max: The Curse of Brotherhood, Titanfall, Quantum Break, Project Spark, Cobalt, Sunset Overdrive, Fantasia: Music Evolved, D4, timed exclusivity of PVZ: GW, Below.

All while beefing up the effort and talent into Halo, Fable, Forza, and Gears......the holy quad of the Xbox lineup ;P. Kinect Sports too. MS is certainly trying and succeeding to give both new and old IPs, beefing up their staff (unproven or not), with variety in genre to boot.



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JOKA_ on 27 February 2014

This is pretty standard, when a game company closes they disperse amongst the remaining dev studios that are hiring. A lot of developers showed up to snatch irrational games dev (both Sony and ms)

I bet a lot of these devs will land at ms, and I I would also bet that some land at other Sony studios (sucker punch was at the irrational games hiring event)



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sales2099 on 27 February 2014
Fusioncode said:
selnor1983 said:
@ fusioncode.

Sony owe more than 60 billion in debt. They posted another big loss.

I was saying good for xbox fans that we get more talented devs.

My opinions dont require your approval. And im not here to change your opinion. You need to chill a bit.

Complete bullshit. Sony is 17b in debt, not 60. That's exactly what I'm talking about, you keep spreading this crap that's not even true. 

Well your scenerio isn;t exactly a rosy picture either. With Sony's "near junk status", the interest charged alone will prevent Sony from making any sigificant gains unless they come up with the next Iphone product in terms of mass adoption.



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ImmortalHelixFossil on 27 February 2014
VitroBahllee said:
Translation: Sony, despite selling the most consoles at a loss, is running out of money.
Microsoft, despite selling less consoles also at a loss, has tons of it.
Soon, all the people praising Sony's first-party devs will talk about how crappy those same devs
are now that they work for MS.


You are aware that Sony had to fire them, because of the games that the studio produced didn't earn enough cash.

About Microsoft you are saying that, because a company is rich, they should waste money?  You have no clue of reality works LOL



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VitroBahllee on 27 February 2014
ImmortalHelixFossil said:
VitroBahllee said:
Translation: Sony, despite selling the most consoles at a loss, is running out of money.
Microsoft, despite selling less consoles also at a loss, has tons of it.
Soon, all the people praising Sony's first-party devs will talk about how crappy those same devs
are now that they work for MS.


You are aware that Sony had to fire them, because of the games that the studio produced didn't earn enough cash.

About Microsoft you are saying that, because a company is rich, they should waste money?  You have no clue of reality works LOL


I'm sorry, thought that the Order: 1886 was a game PS4 gamers were excited about. I didn't understand this was a restructuring, not a shuttering.