will elder scrolls online flop?

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Nem on 17 February 2014

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Do these subscription fees have to be so high?
Would games like FFXIV and WOW keep a lot more subscribers if they would lower the fees?
Or is it all calculated and do they need the actual fees as they are set right now. You can't tell me blizzard is having a hard time making money off of wow. Even without the 4 million or so subscribers they lost over the years.

FFXIV actually has a lower fee model aswell. If you keep to just one character (and mind you, you can have every class on one character) you pay 2 euros less a month its 10.99 instead of 12.99.

The game seems to be doing well, unlike other P2P MMO's. Its making good money for square and its getting great content support.

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only777 on 17 February 2014

Final Fantasy XIV has proved that sub based MMO's still work so long as the quality is high.

Sadly ESO is quite poor, and will fail on that basis.

Sony want to make money by selling art, Nintendo want to make money by selling fun, Microsoft want to make money.

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Recon1O1 on 17 February 2014

I don't see people shelling out the $60 just to try it out as the resale value will probably drop like a stone. $15/mo. is too high as well imo. I don't want to play just one game all the time and I'd have to get in 30-40 hrs/mo. to make it worthwhile. Maybe that's not fair. I probably pay almost $1/hr. for Netflix.

Honestly so many gamers bitch and moan about paying $5 a month. Maybe at $50 for the digital download and $7.50/mo. they could recoup their investment selling gear, dlc even mods. Pay independent PC modders a percentage? But then there's strict and lengthy QC tests to get them on PES and XBL. Relax the standards and you get another set of problems. Just more wishful thinking I guess. Modding seems like the single biggest advantage PC gaming has over consoles from my side of the fence. I'm no graphics ho obviously. These guys could get rich and ditch their day jobs. ;p Now that would be good for the industry.

Bethesda will never get the audience they need at the announced prices if there is not some serious added value. Compare $/hr to me buying Morrowind used at $20 and playing hundreds of hours or even 5-6 playthroughs of Skyrim. I love the idea of having MMOs on my box but the reality is looking pricey.

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Slimebeast on 17 February 2014

Huge flop yes, but even if it was F2P it would still flop. You just can't enter the market anymore with a traditional theme park MMORPG and compete with the giants. Look at Lord of the Ring Online, Star Wars Online, Conan, Warhammer Online, KOTOR Online and whatever big names that have tried to compete with WoW. It's impossible.