| Seece said: Jan 2013: 57k Jan 2014: 49k That's what it looks like on paper  |
"Hey, I've posted 1000 times over 2 years, you've only posted 50 times over 2 weeks, therefore I'm clearly the more active poster".
"Hey, I use only 4 L of fuel to drive the 10 km to work, while it takes you 8 L of fuel to drive the 30 km to work for you - clearly my car is more fuel efficient".
Yes, good reasoning.
| Carl2291 said: Makes you wonder where the baseline will be for Wii U sales after the Donkey Kong bump wares off. Its gonna be a long, long drought for Wii U games between DK and MK. Nintendo are in trouble. Gonna be a bloodbath in Europe especially. |
WIi U doesn't deserves these terrible sales, it is actually a really neat console. But with that said, Nintendo deserves to suffer the consequences of their action, because it is literally one fuck up after another plus they don't seem to understand and learn from their mistakes. I hope sooner or later (preferably sooner) they will wake and become that beast the can be - instead of this dazed, lost, sorry sight.
Aielyn said:
"Hey, I've posted 1000 times over 2 years, you've only posted 50 times over 2 weeks, therefore I'm clearly the more active poster". "Hey, I use only 4 L of fuel to drive the 10 km to work, while it takes you 8 L of fuel to drive the 30 km to work for you - clearly my car is more fuel efficient". Yes, good reasoning. |
I don't think thats how YOY calculation works ...
yes it sold more units in 2014/week, but YOY its down ...
blame the system (YOY calculation) and not the user ...
Seece... You are FOS sometimes with your assumptions, presumptions, stereotypes involving other members and your narrow minded view in which you only see what you want to see and I barely can tolerate your confirmation bias. Control your desires and turn down your bias, just because you think you are right does necessarily mean that you are correct, your responses only show your agenda and bias and further proves that you operate under influence of teenage alike hormones rather than use your brain to offset flaws that our body(shell) has...
You only take the path of least resistance and always try to find the simplest answer, can't you use your brain to not always simplify everything? You always put yourself into Catch 22 situation...
Moderated - Kresnik.
| Lusche said: I don't think thats how YOY calculation works ... yes it sold more units in 2014/week, but YOY its down ... blame the YOY calculation and not the user ... |
YOY works based on "first day of period to last day of period". In this case, for January, that's 1st of January to 31st of January. Or, if we're talking YTD, this would be up to 1st of February (last day we have data for).
Using NPD data doesn't work, especially in this case, because NPD data from 2013 was 5 weeks, due to the "leap year" effect - they track 52 weeks, while a year is 52 weeks and 1 or 2 days (depending on whether it's a regular leap year), and so every five or six years, there has to be an extra week in one of the "months". Anybody who would base the YOY calculation on inconsistent "Year on Year" periods is either ignorant or intentionally misrepresenting things.
| hated_individual said: Seece... You are FOS sometimes with your assumptions, presumptions, stereotypes involving other members and your narrow minded view in which you only see what you want to see and I barely can tolerate your confirmation bias. Control your desires and turn down your bias, just because you think you are right does necessarily mean that you are correct, your responses only show your agenda and bias and further proves that you operate under influence of teenage alike hormones rather than use your brain to offset flaws that our body(shell) has... You only take the path of least resistance and always try to find the simplest answer, can't you use your brain to not always simplify everything? You always put yourself into Catch 22 situation... |
idk about bias, but he uses (more or less official) numbers to make his claim in this post.
us: npd says its down yoy
jp: mediacreate says its down yoy
eu: well idk if there are official numbers but I guess using vgchartz numbers its down yoy
while those numbers might be not 100% right its less biased then others trying to discredit these numbers, but have no prove to provide.
Aielyn said:
Please don't build strawmen like that, especially when you clearly have no comprehension of basic statistics. Even if NPD has 70% of all sales tracked directly, and then only estimate the other 30% through statistical estimation techniques, they can be up to 30% too high, or any (legitimate) percentage too low in their actual figures - statistically, it's unlikely to be that far from right, but unlikely doesn't mean impossible. But then, if you paid attention, I pointed out that NPD isn't perfect, and that the source we're using certainly can't be called a perfect source. My main concern is that all of this comes from "Aquamarine", who is *not* the one that usually leaks NPD numbers. When Nintendo or NPD provide numbers, I'll accept it. In the meantime, I stand by my criticism - it seems to be putting Sony numbers higher than any other source seems to suggest, and other systems' numbers significantly lower. And some of them are marked as approximate when they couldn't possibly be approximate in an actual leak - they would be specific figures from NPD, not estimates of NPD figures. |
Actually I'm pretty decent at statistics, you know what I'm also pretty decent at? Recognizing when someone's just desperately trying to spin a report to make his console of choice look better. Aquamarine is leaking wrong numbers to make Sony look better, give me a freaking break, this is ridiculous. Also, really those numbers seem to put Sony numbers higher than any other source suggests? Weird, I thought I read something that suggests that those numbers are pretty accurate.
| hated_individual said: Seece... You are FOS sometimes with your assumptions, presumptions, stereotypes involving other members and your narrow minded view in which you only see what you want to see and I barely can tolerate your confirmation bias. Control your desires and turn down your bias, just because you think you are right does necessarily mean that you are correct, your responses only show your agenda and bias and further proves that you operate under influence of teenage alike hormones rather than use your brain to offset flaws that our body(shell) has... You only take the path of least resistance and always try to find the simplest answer, can't you use your brain to not always simplify everything? You always put yourself into Catch 22 situation... |
Actually I stick to the figures, there is no need to complicate things. What exactly do you disagree with? Whoevers alt account you are. I wouldn't say anything I do makes me look like a teeanger, at least I can compose myself.
| Aielyn said: YOY works based on "first day of period to last day of period". In this case, for January, that's 1st of January to 31st of January. Or, if we're talking YTD, this would be up to 1st of February (last day we have data for). Using NPD data doesn't work, especially in this case, because NPD data from 2013 was 5 weeks, due to the "leap year" effect - they track 52 weeks, while a year is 52 weeks and 1 or 2 days (depending on whether it's a regular leap year), and so every five or six years, there has to be an extra week in one of the "months". Anybody who would base the YOY calculation on inconsistent "Year on Year" periods is either ignorant or intentionally misrepresenting things. |
idk how it would work, but how would you do the yoy npd jan 2013/2014 calculation ?
while it doesn't reflect the weekly numbers because of a 5week to 4week is the calculation of a yoy different ?
edit:
Jan 2013: 57k
Jan 2014: 49k
like yes 2013 sales weekwise was worse than 2014 weekwise, but overall the sales in 2014 are less (yes 1 week less)
but there are tables with yoy posted all over the place here. Wouldn't these tables say yoy its down x% ? but with an asterisk saying its a 5week against 4weeks
I would find it strange if those tables would say jan 2014 is yoy up compared to jan 2013 despite having lower number ...
I wonder if Nintendo will miss their shipment forecast? Did they expect to be down in every region?
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