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The PS4's power seems...

Better, but not THAT much better anymore... 241 15.42%
 
Are you crazy?! The PS4 is GOD! 349 22.33%
 
The Wii U is clearly unde... 741 47.41%
 
The PS4 is selling better... 36 2.30%
 
I think I'll be buying a... 191 12.22%
 
Total:1,558
oniyide on 23 February 2014

starworld im not sure if you were being sarcastic or not.
If you were being sarcastic fine if you werent...

As long a port is playable and not far behind the others, it is not lazy. Ubi games in particular. I havent heard that much complaints from them. The AC games have problems no matter the system so its not a WIi U thing. SC is missing a mode but i think that comes more down to them not wanting to do a bank on people having to have more than one CCpro controller.



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starworld on 23 February 2014
oniyide said:
starworld im not sure if you were being sarcastic or not.
If you were being sarcastic fine if you werent...

As long a port is playable and not far behind the others, it is not lazy. Ubi games in particular. I havent heard that much complaints from them. The AC games have problems no matter the system so its not a WIi U thing. SC is missing a mode but i think that comes more down to them not wanting to do a bank on people having to have more than one CCpro controller.


I was being sarcastic of course, if developers are having trouble matching consoles that came out 7-8 years ago, then you know the hardware designers never really cared about power or third party's to begin with.



oniyide on 23 February 2014
starworld said:
oniyide said:
starworld im not sure if you were being sarcastic or not.
If you were being sarcastic fine if you werent...

As long a port is playable and not far behind the others, it is not lazy. Ubi games in particular. I havent heard that much complaints from them. The AC games have problems no matter the system so its not a WIi U thing. SC is missing a mode but i think that comes more down to them not wanting to do a bank on people having to have more than one CCpro controller.


I was being sarcastic of course, if developers are having trouble matching consoles that came out 7-8 years ago, then you know the hardware designers never really cared about power or third party's to begin with.

oh i agree. Its just Ninty being Ninty. But some of the fans will swear conspiracy, although they will ignore the entire GC library because that throws their tinfoil arguments out of whack.



supernihilist on 23 February 2014
starworld said:
supernihilist said:
starworld said:
oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:

So which third parties are going to tap out the system "quickly", hmmm? Ubisoft, with what's sure to be a shitty unoptimized port of Watch Dogs?

There will be Wii U games that look significantly better than what we've seen so far, but they're not releasing any time soon.


No. The Wii U version will most likely be slightly better than last gen. Watchdogs is a terrible example of a next gen game. It really isnt. If you think with the Wii U's power that it will be significantly better, outside of the timespan of two years you're mistaken. After two to three years devs start using tricks to get around the humps of using dated hardware. Even uncharted went through that last gen. This gen the devs will have the power to go balls to the wall with that game.

As you can see in my sig, I've bet Watch Dogs will actually be worse than the last gen versions on Wii U; not because the hardware is worse or on par, but because it's Ubisoft and they have proven their laziness and incompetence with Wii U ports time and again.

Wii U still has a ways to go until it's tapped out, as no games so far have been built from the ground up to push it.


what are these lazy ports again?

every single port on wiiu is lazy because it doesnt run bettter then 360/ps3, it has nothing do with hardware according to some fans. so every developer is lazy on wiiu.
,


ever heard of NFS MW U? its the only game that had real effort put in it and it showed....

is there a comparison article about it. did it run at 60fps or 1080p, then if it did then wiiu is indeed a good deal more powerful then the HD twins.

Do you know how to use Google?
The fact that you dont know about it shows your ignorance on the matter , so you shouldnt be so categorical on your claims,



Samus Aran on 23 February 2014
starworld said:
Samus Aran said:
starworld said:
oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:

So which third parties are going to tap out the system "quickly", hmmm? Ubisoft, with what's sure to be a shitty unoptimized port of Watch Dogs?

There will be Wii U games that look significantly better than what we've seen so far, but they're not releasing any time soon.


No. The Wii U version will most likely be slightly better than last gen. Watchdogs is a terrible example of a next gen game. It really isnt. If you think with the Wii U's power that it will be significantly better, outside of the timespan of two years you're mistaken. After two to three years devs start using tricks to get around the humps of using dated hardware. Even uncharted went through that last gen. This gen the devs will have the power to go balls to the wall with that game.

As you can see in my sig, I've bet Watch Dogs will actually be worse than the last gen versions on Wii U; not because the hardware is worse or on par, but because it's Ubisoft and they have proven their laziness and incompetence with Wii U ports time and again.

Wii U still has a ways to go until it's tapped out, as no games so far have been built from the ground up to push it.


what are these lazy ports again?

every single port on wiiu is lazy because it doesnt run bettter then 360/ps3, it has nothing do with hardware according to some fans. so every developer is lazy on wiiu.
,


Are you implying Wii U isn't powerful enough to handle PS3/XBOX360 games? Super Mario 3D World is leagues ahead of any PS3/XBOX360 game. I've just started playing Batman: Arkham City - Armored edition and the game is fun, but it's my ugliest game I own so far, graphically speaking. 



Monotone gray looking games aren't pretty you know. Neither are pseudo-realistic graphics. 



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starworld on 23 February 2014
supernihilist said:
starworld said:
supernihilist said:
starworld said:
oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:

So which third parties are going to tap out the system "quickly", hmmm? Ubisoft, with what's sure to be a shitty unoptimized port of Watch Dogs?

There will be Wii U games that look significantly better than what we've seen so far, but they're not releasing any time soon.


No. The Wii U version will most likely be slightly better than last gen. Watchdogs is a terrible example of a next gen game. It really isnt. If you think with the Wii U's power that it will be significantly better, outside of the timespan of two years you're mistaken. After two to three years devs start using tricks to get around the humps of using dated hardware. Even uncharted went through that last gen. This gen the devs will have the power to go balls to the wall with that game.

As you can see in my sig, I've bet Watch Dogs will actually be worse than the last gen versions on Wii U; not because the hardware is worse or on par, but because it's Ubisoft and they have proven their laziness and incompetence with Wii U ports time and again.

Wii U still has a ways to go until it's tapped out, as no games so far have been built from the ground up to push it.


what are these lazy ports again?

every single port on wiiu is lazy because it doesnt run bettter then 360/ps3, it has nothing do with hardware according to some fans. so every developer is lazy on wiiu.
,


ever heard of NFS MW U? its the only game that had real effort put in it and it showed....

is there a comparison article about it. did it run at 60fps or 1080p, then if it did then wiiu is indeed a good deal more powerful then the HD twins.

Do you know how to use Google?
The fact that you dont know about it shows your ignorance on the matter , so you shouldnt be so categorical on your claims,

I actually i just finished reading the article and it doesn't really help the wiiu case, some textures are higher resolution, and crashes  only drop 5fps compared to 360/ps3 10 fps, while sometimes the 360/ps3 out perform the wiiu version, overall though wiiu has a slight advantage, cause of double the ram, all that effort plus extra dev time and this the results. still though on averae mulitplatform games on 360/ps3 average 7-10fps higher then the wiiu version.



starworld on 23 February 2014
Samus Aran said:
starworld said:
Samus Aran said:
starworld said:
oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:

So which third parties are going to tap out the system "quickly", hmmm? Ubisoft, with what's sure to be a shitty unoptimized port of Watch Dogs?

There will be Wii U games that look significantly better than what we've seen so far, but they're not releasing any time soon.


No. The Wii U version will most likely be slightly better than last gen. Watchdogs is a terrible example of a next gen game. It really isnt. If you think with the Wii U's power that it will be significantly better, outside of the timespan of two years you're mistaken. After two to three years devs start using tricks to get around the humps of using dated hardware. Even uncharted went through that last gen. This gen the devs will have the power to go balls to the wall with that game.

As you can see in my sig, I've bet Watch Dogs will actually be worse than the last gen versions on Wii U; not because the hardware is worse or on par, but because it's Ubisoft and they have proven their laziness and incompetence with Wii U ports time and again.

Wii U still has a ways to go until it's tapped out, as no games so far have been built from the ground up to push it.


what are these lazy ports again?

every single port on wiiu is lazy because it doesnt run bettter then 360/ps3, it has nothing do with hardware according to some fans. so every developer is lazy on wiiu.
,


Are you implying Wii U isn't powerful enough to handle PS3/XBOX360 games? Super Mario 3D World is leagues ahead of any PS3/XBOX360 game. I've just started playing Batman: Arkham City - Armored edition and the game is fun, but it's my ugliest game I own so far, graphically speaking. 



Monotone gray looking games aren't pretty you know. Neither are pseudo-realistic graphics. 

mario world is a pretty game, but to say its leagues ahead of the best looking games on 360/ps3, well that was my reaction. you can post pics of 3d world and some of the top 360/ps3 games and can clearly see which is more demanding, thing like detail and the amount of things going on are just off the charts compared to 3d world.



Mr Khan on 23 February 2014

Trim the quote trees and please try to minimize the contentless reaction GIFs, people.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

FinalFantasyXIII on 23 February 2014

Tree Qoute eyeball rape goin on in here.

 

OP Bayonetta 2 and X will come out almost 2 years after Wii U, so you can't compare launch titles of PS4/XB1 to Wii U 2 years after the fact silly...but you did. You're so smart.



supernihilist on 23 February 2014
starworld said:
supernihilist said:
starworld said:
supernihilist said:
starworld said:
oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:

So which third parties are going to tap out the system "quickly", hmmm? Ubisoft, with what's sure to be a shitty unoptimized port of Watch Dogs?

There will be Wii U games that look significantly better than what we've seen so far, but they're not releasing any time soon.


No. The Wii U version will most likely be slightly better than last gen. Watchdogs is a terrible example of a next gen game. It really isnt. If you think with the Wii U's power that it will be significantly better, outside of the timespan of two years you're mistaken. After two to three years devs start using tricks to get around the humps of using dated hardware. Even uncharted went through that last gen. This gen the devs will have the power to go balls to the wall with that game.

As you can see in my sig, I've bet Watch Dogs will actually be worse than the last gen versions on Wii U; not because the hardware is worse or on par, but because it's Ubisoft and they have proven their laziness and incompetence with Wii U ports time and again.

Wii U still has a ways to go until it's tapped out, as no games so far have been built from the ground up to push it.


what are these lazy ports again?

every single port on wiiu is lazy because it doesnt run bettter then 360/ps3, it has nothing do with hardware according to some fans. so every developer is lazy on wiiu.
,


ever heard of NFS MW U? its the only game that had real effort put in it and it showed....

is there a comparison article about it. did it run at 60fps or 1080p, then if it did then wiiu is indeed a good deal more powerful then the HD twins.

Do you know how to use Google?
The fact that you dont know about it shows your ignorance on the matter , so you shouldnt be so categorical on your claims,

I actually i just finished reading the article and it doesn't really help the wiiu case, some textures are higher resolution, and crashes  only drop 5fps compared to 360/ps3 10 fps, while sometimes the 360/ps3 out perform the wiiu version, overall though wiiu has a slight advantage, cause of double the ram, all that effort plus extra dev time and this the results. still though on averae mulitplatform games on 360/ps3 average 7-10fps higher then the wiiu version.

 

 


What you call EXTRA dev time is actually the PROPER dev time. theres no extra anything, its just that it started later on WiiU. It has better textures, better reflection and lighting and all with a better framerate. it is clearly better period.

With no rush, all WiiU ports shouldve perform like this, slighlty better than the lead platform of the project. since thats the theorized power gap between WiiU/PS360, it makes sense.