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Forums - Sales - January 2014 NPD Thread! - PS4: 271k, XBO: 141k, WiiU: 49k

JoeTheBro said:

34% drop. What did you use as your starting number?

Also we now can use this:

Pixel counting ftw!

PS4: 284k



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DerNebel said:

There is a huge decline, but I wouldn't say the industry is doomed (handheld maybe) but more that MS and Nintendo haven't been able to provide gamers with what they want.

Also regarding the Wii it should be noted that it had freakishly large sales in its first couple years but then dropped way earlier than the 360 or PS3, so a console doesn't need to outsell the Wii now to have a chance at beating its lifetime numbers.

Lol, the whole "#doomed" thing was just me joking, of course the industry isn't doomed as of now, it's the first month of the year and not many notable releases have occured. Now if huge games release and numbers don't shoot up a good amount, then we can worry....

As for Wii, well people were comparing PS4's numbers and demand to Wii's and well, these numbers show that demand for Wii was much higher even past the holidays than PS4 was in the same timeframe. Anecdotal evidence or call it as you may, but there have been PS4's in the wild (though very rare to find in stores), and that's already telling that demand isn't as high as Wii was, where you couldn't find one lying around for well over a year. The cause for Wii's demise was all on Nintendo. If they were able to continue supporting it, I'm sure it wouldn't died so quickly, that was their fault. Though, I don't think any console will EVER match the insane conditions Wii was in for its first 2 years in terms of demand. 



JoeTheBro said:
Xevross said:
JoeTheBro said:
Somini said:
benji232 said:
Somini said:

This was just posted on GAF. Let your math skills flow freely as you try and decipher what the exact numbers are like :)

Should be clarified that these represent first dec > jan drop.

Thanks for that. I'm jiggling both GAF and VGC at the same time. Etho usually does this, i'm not as fast :D

Math yo.

145 XBONE, around 300 for PS4.

What?

I got 285k as an estimate for PS4 from this cart.

34% drop. What did you use as your starting number?

Also we now can use this:

I used the December NPD number, and I used a 67% drop because thats what it looked like on the bar chart. The line graph does look to be about 285k tbh 



deadly2choke said:
DonFerrari said:
Aerys said:
JoeTheBro said:
pezus said:
JoeTheBro said:
pezus said:
Somini said:

Some interesting numbers:

1st January PS3 - 244K

1st January 360 - 249K

1st January Xbox One - approx. 143K

1st January PS4 - approx. 286K

1st January WiiU - 57K

Both PS3 and 360 had 5 weeks, though.

And wii u

It did?? Oh, wow. Even more terrible than I remembered


That's why my bet/prediction in my sig is kinda complex.

 

Just month to month though,

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*Assuming rest of world is not undertracked on here.

OMG !!! WTF !!

You were right ! O_o

 

and so was ethomaz when he said PS4 was understracked and One overtracked !! I cant wait to see his reaction, we need to unban him !

For Dec he made a "I was wrong, sorry" thread and got bashed... will all those guys make individual threads saying, "you were right, forgive us" or will just hide?

just hide...like pathetic trolls i am guessing

I bet you are right sir... but they sure like to complain how ethomaz is such a troll and rude person.



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pezus said:
benji232 said:
Apparently, sony wasn't including handhelds in their Ps3+Ps4 > all other systems statement. It is pure speculation, but it would make a lot more sense.

They said "platforms". Handhelds are platforms, too. Anything else is racism!

Sony would have included PS vita with the "ps family" if they were including handhelds. My guess is, vita is selling so low amounts that they didn't even bother with handhelds altogether. Why include something that makes you look worse in PR? Platform is probably just part of the PR to make it sound better. By platforms, they could very well be only including consoles. 



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

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JoeTheBro said:
JoeTheBro said:

34% drop. What did you use as your starting number?

Also we now can use this:

Pixel counting ftw!

PS4: 284k

Cool, very nice sales. And yeah about 285k as I said ;).



PS4 the king !!!! :)



forethought14 said:
DerNebel said:

There is a huge decline, but I wouldn't say the industry is doomed (handheld maybe) but more that MS and Nintendo haven't been able to provide gamers with what they want.

Also regarding the Wii it should be noted that it had freakishly large sales in its first couple years but then dropped way earlier than the 360 or PS3, so a console doesn't need to outsell the Wii now to have a chance at beating its lifetime numbers.

Lol, the whole "#doomed" thing was just me joking, of course the industry isn't doomed as of now, it's the first month of the year and not many notable releases have occured. Now if huge games release and numbers don't shoot up a good amount, then we can worry....

As for Wii, well people were comparing PS4's numbers and demand to Wii's and well, these numbers show that demand for Wii was much higher even past the holidays than PS4 was in the same timeframe. Anecdotal evidence or call it as you may, but there have been PS4's in the wild (though very rare to find in stores), and that's already telling that demand isn't as high as Wii was, where you couldn't find one lying around for well over a year. The cause for Wii's demise was all on Nintendo. If they were able to continue supporting it, I'm sure it wouldn't died so quickly, that was their fault. Though, I don't think any console will EVER match the insane conditions Wii was in for its first 2 years in terms of demand. 

True demand was insane at the beginning, but like I've said a console doesn't need to reproduce the Wiis initial demand to beat it in the long run, it just needs to have a longer life, also I think it's kinda important to note that the Wii launched at $250 vs the PS4s $400 so that alone does make a difference.



benji232 said:
Sh1nn said:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-13/playstation-4-sales-top-microsoft-xbox-one-in-january-sony-says.html

"Combined sales for the PS4 and its predecessor, the PlayStation 3, surpassed all other platforms in January, Sony said."

Nice.

If this is: PS4+PS3 > all other systems combined , how is this nice? This stat is only spelling doom for the console/handheld business. Absolutely horrible news unfortunetly. I guess Sony fanboys will get  a kick out of this but for those who truly care about the console/handheld market, this is very bad.

Indeed, celebrating bad sales for everything other than PS4 (because let's face it PS3 sales will be very low) is fiddling while Rome burns.

However let the premature I-told-you-so's that this generation would be a contraction from Gen 7 commence:

I told you so!

That Xb one is significantly lower than 360's first January is terrible news for Xb one AND for Gen 8 over all sales. And if Wii U's 2nd January is not much better than it's first then considering price cut and decent game library that's a disaster.

As much as I like to see PS4 on top, PS4 cannot carry console gaming entirely on its shoulders. MS needs to step up at least in the USA and achieve some measure of comparability in sales numbers. But even there all that would be doing is shifting sales from PS4 to Xb one, not actually growing the console market.

MS needs to accept that bundled Kinect was a bad idea and release a Kinectless sku. They may also need to take a loss on the Kinectless sku and sell it for $349. Specs still matter, and it's a hard sell trying to convince people to pay the same price for a console that has less power under the hood.



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Wait a second, so the Xbox One did sell the most Software ? If so that's crazy

http://news.xbox.com/2014/02/xbox-one-january-npd