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vivster on 11 February 2014
vkaraujo said:
vivster said:

As long as big Developers/Publisher make more money they don't have to take shit from anyone.

I'm not saying people shouldn't judge them but that it is quite laughable to criticize someone who is obviously more successful than you in what they are doing.


Wtf? We can't criticize people just because they made money?

So rock bands can't say a thing about, let's say, justin bieber, just because he makes more money?

CoD:ghosts is outselling TLoU 4:1, even on PS3 it is 2:1. Should we just take all Goty from TLoU and give to activision? CoD is obviously "more successful".

 

F*** that, that makes no sense

You totally didn't read my second sentence did you?

Yes you can judge all day long but in the end it makes the one who is less successful look like a sore loser. Also I'm not equating success with quality and companies don't either. Success is by quantity for them.

I don't think Justin Bieber is a great musician and that he had it pretty easy to gain all the success he had. But should we belittle other people's success just because we have different standards or we didn't think first of it or just weren't strong enough to go through with it? No. By belittling success you belittle the people who support the success by being greatly entertained by it.

You are basically saying other people shouldn't have fun when it does not equate to your standards of fun.



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superchunk on 11 February 2014

If they make a good game, I'll toss my $$ in.



vivster on 11 February 2014
curl-6 said:
vivster said:
curl-6 said:
vivster said:

I don't see how a company can mistreat their audience with things that either don't exist or are free to purchase.

Is Microsoft mistreating me because I don't like the games on the Xbox? Is Sony mistreating me because Infamous doesn't release a month earlier? Is Square Enix mistreating me because LR could be the first shitty FF for me?

They can mistreat theiryour audience by giving them shoddy and/or late ports.

Not if it is the audience that chooses to play the bad ports even though there are superior versions out there. You can't blame the company for the bad decisions its audience makes with their products.

Don't buy it if it is bad. That's the win-win for both company and audience because first will learn from it and the latter will not have to play rubbish.

They shouldn't make bad ports in the first place. That's disrespectful to the consumer.

That's disrespectful to their sales. To be disrespectful to someone you should first have respect which is not the case.

How is it disrespectful if the consumer doesn't buy it?



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pokoko on 11 February 2014

Well, the central North Carolina part sounds credible. It's a technology hotbed and home to a lot of game developers, including Epic and branches of Funcom and Insomniac.

The rest, though? Sounds like a trolling.



curl-6 on 11 February 2014
vivster said:

That's disrespectful to their sales. To be disrespectful to someone you should first have respect which is not the case.

How is it disrespectful if the consumer doesn't buy it?

It's disrespectful to Wii U owners not to give them the option of playing a quality Wii U version.



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vivster on 11 February 2014
curl-6 said:
vivster said:

That's disrespectful to their sales. To be disrespectful to someone you should first have respect which is not the case.

How is it disrespectful if the consumer doesn't buy it?

It's disrespectful to Wii U owners not to give them the option of playing a quality Wii U version.

But since when have game makers the obligation to deliver good products? Also why should they have respect to WiiU owners which aren't even their target audience?

Also for example all ported 8th gen games will never have the same quality than they have on X1/PS4 no matter how hard they work on the port.



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curl-6 on 11 February 2014
vivster said:
curl-6 said:
vivster said:

That's disrespectful to their sales. To be disrespectful to someone you should first have respect which is not the case.

How is it disrespectful if the consumer doesn't buy it?

It's disrespectful to Wii U owners not to give them the option of playing a quality Wii U version.

But since when have game makers the obligation to deliver good products?

It is the responsibility of consumers to hold companies accountable to the quality of their products, otherwise they're just enabling their own exploitation.



T.Rexington on 11 February 2014

Hope they can back it up. Lots of talk from a dev who haven't even released one game yet.



vivster on 11 February 2014
curl-6 said:
vivster said:
curl-6 said:
vivster said:

That's disrespectful to their sales. To be disrespectful to someone you should first have respect which is not the case.

How is it disrespectful if the consumer doesn't buy it?

It's disrespectful to Wii U owners not to give them the option of playing a quality Wii U version.

But since when have game makers the obligation to deliver good products?

It is the responsibility of consumers to hold companies accountable to the quality of their products, otherwise they're just enabling their own exploitation.

Yes, and they do this by not buying the product or getting their money back. That's the most direct contact and the loudest voice the consumer has.
The company is only accountable to their sales and not customer satisfaction. The latter is only relevant because it is one of the main causes for low or high sales. It is however not directly connected to the company.



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curl-6 on 11 February 2014
vivster said:

Yes, and they do this by not buying the product or getting their money back. That's the most direct contact and the loudest voice the consumer has.
The company is only accountable to their sales and not customer satisfaction. The latter is only relevant because it is one of the main causes for low or high sales. It is however not directly connected to the company.

If you choose not to hold companies to a standard, fine. But those of us who demand to be treated respectfully do.