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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Wii U only 2% of Ubisoft sales for Q3 2013 (PS4: 12% X1: 9%)

oniyide on 12 February 2014
sidmeiernintifan said:
Look at this Wii U bundle that got sold out in a matter of hours http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=761150
Wii U Deluxe (Limited Editon w Zelda WW + W101 + Ninja Gaiden for $270)
This tells me that price is the biggest problem, and that if they were able to sell it for less than USD250, there would be no talk of Wii U being doomed.


Nintendo should pay for the last multiplats Wii U will be able to get that will run perfectly well on Wii U, for example Ultra Street Fighter IV that will be released on PS3 and XBOX360.
But I don't why should anyone care for a Wii U port of games that will also be released on PS4 and XBone when it will opbviously be much worse because of the power difference.
I would rather have Nintendo pay third parties for a couple of exclusives every year like Bayo 2 or the Wonderful 101, or the Prince of Persia Ubisoft made for Wii, than get inferior ports of games made with PS4 and Xbone in mind.

so is the general consensus that Ninty consoles wont sell if its above 250? because thats kind of sad. Especially when the other two are doing much better and sell for twice that much.



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Cobretti2 on 12 February 2014
oniyide said:
sidmeiernintifan said:
Look at this Wii U bundle that got sold out in a matter of hours http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=761150
Wii U Deluxe (Limited Editon w Zelda WW + W101 + Ninja Gaiden for $270)
This tells me that price is the biggest problem, and that if they were able to sell it for less than USD250, there would be no talk of Wii U being doomed.


Nintendo should pay for the last multiplats Wii U will be able to get that will run perfectly well on Wii U, for example Ultra Street Fighter IV that will be released on PS3 and XBOX360.
But I don't why should anyone care for a Wii U port of games that will also be released on PS4 and XBone when it will opbviously be much worse because of the power difference.
I would rather have Nintendo pay third parties for a couple of exclusives every year like Bayo 2 or the Wonderful 101, or the Prince of Persia Ubisoft made for Wii, than get inferior ports of games made with PS4 and Xbone in mind.

so is the general consensus that Ninty consoles wont sell if its above 250? because thats kind of sad. Especially when the other two are doing much better and sell for twice that much.

and this is exactly why i dont think Nintendo can go all out in tech like the other guys. Cause no one sees a Nintendo system as a high end product like the other two. 

They need a huge shift in image so actual gamers want to pay money for their system.



 

 

Kane1389 on 12 February 2014
oniyide said:
Mr Khan said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
The denial. Its unbelievable, just unbelievable.

If this thread reduces itself to mere name-calling i'll lock it and start the bans.


name calling? He didnt even point out anyone particular. Hell he just said denial, you cant call someone "denial"


Its almost as if he feels he was called out on something. I wonder why



ICStats on 12 February 2014
jlmurph2 said:

PlayStation 3 — 28%
Xbox 360 — 27%
PlayStation 4 — 12%
Wii — 11%
PC — 10%
Xbox One — 9%
Wii U — 2%

Oh wow.  Ubisoft has like ~14 titles out for Wii U, over a longer time, on a larger install base.  Wii U is truly horrible for 3rd party.



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ICStats on 12 February 2014

Those making excuses that it's the publisher's fault should note that even Nintendo with beautiful + complete + exclusive games have had disappointing sales well below their expectations on Wii U.

Think what you want, but looking at the future with these disappointing results it will make developers put very small to no teams on the Wii U ports of titles, which is why they will be delayed and not well featured. When you look at the results, there's just not a whole lot of money there to pay a few developers, rent, taxes, etc...



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burning_phoneix on 12 February 2014
ICStats said:
jlmurph2 said:

PlayStation 3 — 28%
Xbox 360 — 27%
PlayStation 4 — 12%
Wii — 11%
PC — 10%
Xbox One — 9%
Wii U — 2%

Oh wow.  Ubisoft has like ~14 titles out for Wii U, over a longer time, on a larger install base.  Wii U is truly horrible for 3rd party.

I don't know, 35 million Euros out of a bunc of ports isn't bad. It's not great eithier but it's not bad.



JazzB1987 on 12 February 2014
oniyide said:
so we going to keep making excuses and ignore that PS4 and xone, two consoles that JUST released have a higher percentage than Wii U? Sounds about right.


When you take your time to actually THINK about it then yes it does sound right.

Its not nintendos fault PS3 owners buy PS2 games (after they have lost the backwards compatiblity) for full price. So dont expect Nintendo Wiiu owners to buy PS360 ports that look even worse than on those 2 consoles that have 24FPS that are missing gamemodes that will never get DLC and are made by people that actually INSULT the userbase (like EA does or that Darksiders2 def etc)

I mean would you buy Watchdogs on PS4 if it would be 1024x576 25fps when the game on PS3 would have FREE online would run in 1280x720 with 30FPS? Just because the devs could not be bothered to optimize the game? No? Then dont expect WiiU owners to buy PS360 games like Batman that run at 25fps either especially when they are LATE ports that cost $10 on top of the PS360 price.


Not everyone has lost the sense for VALUE like mainstreamers have (maybe they never had it to begin with).  I mean there were people that bought Castlevania on 360 and it drops to 12FPS.....  ints not like gameplay is important to games right? Its only about the visuals ........



memo on 12 February 2014
JazzB1987 said:
oniyide said:
so we going to keep making excuses and ignore that PS4 and xone, two consoles that JUST released have a higher percentage than Wii U? Sounds about right.


When you take your time to actually THINK about it then yes it does sound right.

Its not nintendos fault PS3 owners buy PS2 games (after they have lost the backwards compatiblity) for full price. So dont expect Nintendo Wiiu owners to buy PS360 ports that look even worse than on those 2 consoles that have 24FPS that are missing gamemodes that will never get DLC and are made by people that actually INSULT the userbase (like EA does or that Darksiders2 def etc)

I mean would you buy Watchdogs on PS4 if it would be 1024x576 25fps when the game on PS3 would have FREE online would run in 1280x720 with 30FPS? Just because the devs could not be bothered to optimize the game? No? Then dont expect WiiU owners to buy PS360 games like Batman that run at 25fps either especially when they are LATE ports that cost $10 on top of the PS360 price.


Not everyone has lost the sense for VALUE like mainstreamers have (maybe they never had it to begin with).  I mean there were people that bought Castlevania on 360 and it drops to 12FPS.....  ints not like gameplay is important to games right? Its only about the visuals ........

So, then why Assassins Creed  4 didn't sell like the ps4/xbone? The game is optimized and it runs well on the Wii U



jlmurph2 on 12 February 2014
JazzB1987 said:
oniyide said:
so we going to keep making excuses and ignore that PS4 and xone, two consoles that JUST released have a higher percentage than Wii U? Sounds about right.


When you take your time to actually THINK about it then yes it does sound right.

Its not nintendos fault PS3 owners buy PS2 games (after they have lost the backwards compatiblity) for full price. So dont expect Nintendo Wiiu owners to buy PS360 ports that look even worse than on those 2 consoles that have 24FPS that are missing gamemodes that will never get DLC and are made by people that actually INSULT the userbase (like EA does or that Darksiders2 def etc)

I mean would you buy Watchdogs on PS4 if it would be 1024x576 25fps when the game on PS3 would have FREE online would run in 1280x720 with 30FPS? Just because the devs could not be bothered to optimize the game? No? Then dont expect WiiU owners to buy PS360 games like Batman that run at 25fps either especially when they are LATE ports that cost $10 on top of the PS360 price.


Not everyone has lost the sense for VALUE like mainstreamers have (maybe they never had it to begin with).  I mean there were people that bought Castlevania on 360 and it drops to 12FPS.....  ints not like gameplay is important to games right? Its only about the visuals ........

This whole point is just dumb. Rayman Legends runs fine on Wii U and ACIV looks and runs better than PS360. 



Barozi on 12 February 2014
burning_phoneix said:
32.5 million euros ain't bad for like what? 4 or 5 ports that cost a million each to port over from 360/PS3?

The percentage is low but it's not a bad ROI.

you know that includes ZombiU, Rayman Legends (WiiU lead), Just Dance 4, ESPN Sports Connection (exclusive), Splinter Cell Blacklist and other older games that sold during this period as well ?