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DeadBigfoot21 on 05 February 2014
DerNebel said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Well it is cheaper....a huge factor.
It did launch earlier....not that much earlier but still
and most importantly. It launched in a lot of more countries so it should have more sales.

US:

PS4 59,085 (+2%) 2,263,631
XOne 49,809 (-11%) 2,117,358

UK:

PS4 17,547 (-15%) 627,008
XOne 8,922 (-16%) 426,152

Germany:

PS4 7,359 (-29%) 295,531
XOne 2,987 (-24%) 146,654

France:

PS4 11,704 (-6%) 286,304
XOne 3,583 (-4%) 144,741

Clearly the most important reason for the PS4 outselling the X1 is the extra countries it's released in.

So in this chart you're telling me a cheaper priced console is outselling a higher priced console? 

O_o 

People love buying cheaper items??? Thats a shocker..



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Shinobi-san on 05 February 2014
shikamaru317 said:
Lawlight said:
NobleTeam360 said:

Nice way to spin numbers. Also it's not really surprising for the Xbox One more expensive and available in less countries. Someone already said this so I'll just reiterate their point. 


The PS3 was more expensive and released in less countries than the X1 and, yet, they're about similar in sales.


PS3 wasn't truly more expensive, the standard version cost $500, same as the Xbox One, the initial $600 premium model was discontinued due to poor sales so you know most of the sales came from the $500 version. And though the PS3 released in less countries, the total size of the gaming markets are comparable.

You cant really do a direct comparison here. The PS3 was $500 and $600 over 7 years ago o.O

So yeah i think lawlight is actually correct in saying that the PS3 was more expensive. I think if you do the calculations you will find that the PS3 was actually significantly more expensive than the X1 given the time period it released.

Edit: I might be wrong but i think i have a general idea on how economics works XD



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Touma on 05 February 2014
DeadBigfoot21 said:
DerNebel said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Well it is cheaper....a huge factor.
It did launch earlier....not that much earlier but still
and most importantly. It launched in a lot of more countries so it should have more sales.

US:

PS4 59,085 (+2%) 2,263,631
XOne 49,809 (-11%) 2,117,358

UK:

PS4 17,547 (-15%) 627,008
XOne 8,922 (-16%) 426,152

Germany:

PS4 7,359 (-29%) 295,531
XOne 2,987 (-24%) 146,654

France:

PS4 11,704 (-6%) 286,304
XOne 3,583 (-4%) 144,741

Clearly the most important reason for the PS4 outselling the X1 is the extra countries it's released in.

So in this chart you're telling me a cheaper priced console is outselling a higher priced console? 

O_o 

People love buying cheaper items??? Thats a shocker..


PS3 sales was better than X360 sales same with a higher price, it's the difference...



DerNebel on 05 February 2014
DeadBigfoot21 said:
DerNebel said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Well it is cheaper....a huge factor.
It did launch earlier....not that much earlier but still
and most importantly. It launched in a lot of more countries so it should have more sales.

US:

PS4 59,085 (+2%) 2,263,631
XOne 49,809 (-11%) 2,117,358

UK:

PS4 17,547 (-15%) 627,008
XOne 8,922 (-16%) 426,152

Germany:

PS4 7,359 (-29%) 295,531
XOne 2,987 (-24%) 146,654

France:

PS4 11,704 (-6%) 286,304
XOne 3,583 (-4%) 144,741

Clearly the most important reason for the PS4 outselling the X1 is the extra countries it's released in.

So in this chart you're telling me a cheaper priced console is outselling a higher priced console? 

O_o 

People love buying cheaper items??? Thats a shocker..

I even marked the part of your post that this was referring to -.-



DJEVOLVE on 05 February 2014
Nintentacle said:
I assume It's because the price is $500. I wonder how the sales would be if it was $400.


I think it would be selling as well as ps4 or better.



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DeadBigfoot21 on 05 February 2014
Zekkyou said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Zekkyou said:

The PS3 has been selling more than the 360 at a higher price for years.

The earlier launch was far too insignificant to matter much.

It did launch it more countries, but it's also beating the X1 in pretty much every country they are both out in. The PS4 also still has Japan up it's sleeve, something the X1 isn't likely to benefit much from, and the PS4 has also been constantly hit by supply issues.

Anything else you want to add? ^^

It outsold it at the end of the generation.....it took 8 years...

Ps4 is beating the xbox one is the US because of the price. It launched worldwide so supply issues should be high obviously. More countries means less consoles shipped to each country. Microsoft launched in only 13 so that gave them more supply for each country. It isn't rocket science.

Ps3 had alot more exclusives over it's lifetime than xbox 360. People buy consoles to play exclusive games. That alone gave sony the advantage to sell more consoles than microsoft. 

I will await your replay..

No, it took the the PS3 7 or so years to overtake the 360, since the 360 had a rather large lead from it's early release. Despite the PS3 costing more it's entire lifetime it's been outselling the 360 more months than not since for the last 4/5 years. Even during it's launch year at $600 it still managed to keep on the 360's heals, and even outsell it some months.

Because of those supply issues we can't know if the X1 would be selling more in the US at the same price, since we don't know the PS4's sales potential without them. I do think at the same price the X1 would be ahead, but it's still a huge victory for Sony to take that much market share from MS so quickly. The X1 may also have more territories to release in, but the PS4 also has Japan. I'd bet that will counter out the effect of much of the X1's launch in those countries, since it will benefit little from Japan.

So you admit to the PS3 being a better console than the 360? ^^ Because you're right, it did have more exclusives, and with better critic receptions too.

The PS3 ended up outselling the 360 for the majority of last gen at a higher price, shall i expect to see the same from the X1 once they are both released everywhere? ^^ It does currently have more major exclusives released than the PS4, so it has no excuse not to ay?

It's also worth noting that the X1 comes with a peripheral. MS were the ones who chose to put it in, so it's their job to make customers see that peripheral as worth the higher cost. If the only way the X1 could outsell the PS4 is cost the same/less then it would just show that MS made a pretty big mistake with the Kinect.

I dont know how long exactly it took to outsell the xbox 360 but it was near the end of last generation. The ps3 did outsell the 360 at times but the xbox one has outsold the ps4 aswell. During the month of november and december, xbox one sold more than ps4 in the us and sold more games aswell. Ps3 has been at $250 for years now at the same price of the xbox so i dont know where you got that. I never admitted to ps3 being better than the 360. Having more exclusives doesn't mean its better. Quality over quantity!

Again ps3 has been priced at $250 same price as xbox 360. You can buy a cheaper 360 with a 4gb drive. 

Kinect is one reason why some haven't purchased it. They feel like kinect is being forced and that is another factor in sales. I hope we see a kinect less SKU priced at $400. Sales will go higher. Sadly halo 5 was pushed to 2015, it would have murdered every other exclusive game to come this holiday. Halo 5 bundled with a $400 SKU = lots of sales. Quote me on that. 



DeadBigfoot21 on 05 February 2014
Touma said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
DerNebel said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Well it is cheaper....a huge factor.
It did launch earlier....not that much earlier but still
and most importantly. It launched in a lot of more countries so it should have more sales.

US:

PS4 59,085 (+2%) 2,263,631
XOne 49,809 (-11%) 2,117,358

UK:

PS4 17,547 (-15%) 627,008
XOne 8,922 (-16%) 426,152

Germany:

PS4 7,359 (-29%) 295,531
XOne 2,987 (-24%) 146,654

France:

PS4 11,704 (-6%) 286,304
XOne 3,583 (-4%) 144,741

Clearly the most important reason for the PS4 outselling the X1 is the extra countries it's released in.

So in this chart you're telling me a cheaper priced console is outselling a higher priced console? 

O_o 

People love buying cheaper items??? Thats a shocker..


PS3 sales was better than X360 sales same with a higher price, it's the difference...

Higher price? 

Last time i checked they are both the same price. 



DeadBigfoot21 on 05 February 2014
DerNebel said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
DerNebel said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Well it is cheaper....a huge factor.
It did launch earlier....not that much earlier but still
and most importantly. It launched in a lot of more countries so it should have more sales.

US:

PS4 59,085 (+2%) 2,263,631
XOne 49,809 (-11%) 2,117,358

UK:

PS4 17,547 (-15%) 627,008
XOne 8,922 (-16%) 426,152

Germany:

PS4 7,359 (-29%) 295,531
XOne 2,987 (-24%) 146,654

France:

PS4 11,704 (-6%) 286,304
XOne 3,583 (-4%) 144,741

Clearly the most important reason for the PS4 outselling the X1 is the extra countries it's released in.

So in this chart you're telling me a cheaper priced console is outselling a higher priced console? 

O_o 

People love buying cheaper items??? Thats a shocker..

I even marked the part of your post that this was referring to -.-

So why did ps4 outsell the xbox one in those listed countries? 

Simple: It outsold the competition because it is priced at a lower price. Fact! 



Touma on 05 February 2014
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Touma said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
DerNebel said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Well it is cheaper....a huge factor.
It did launch earlier....not that much earlier but still
and most importantly. It launched in a lot of more countries so it should have more sales.

US:

PS4 59,085 (+2%) 2,263,631
XOne 49,809 (-11%) 2,117,358

UK:

PS4 17,547 (-15%) 627,008
XOne 8,922 (-16%) 426,152

Germany:

PS4 7,359 (-29%) 295,531
XOne 2,987 (-24%) 146,654

France:

PS4 11,704 (-6%) 286,304
XOne 3,583 (-4%) 144,741

Clearly the most important reason for the PS4 outselling the X1 is the extra countries it's released in.

So in this chart you're telling me a cheaper priced console is outselling a higher priced console? 

O_o 

People love buying cheaper items??? Thats a shocker..


PS3 sales was better than X360 sales same with a higher price, it's the difference...

Higher price? 

Last time i checked they are both the same price. 

Not now but between 2006 and 2011.

 
if I remember correctly in 2007: Jan-July: PS3: $600 X360: $400
                                                         August-December PS3: $500 X360: $350

The gap was larger than the gap between XB1 and PS4 and the sales were still very close.


DeadBigfoot21 on 05 February 2014
Touma said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Touma said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
DerNebel said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Well it is cheaper....a huge factor.
It did launch earlier....not that much earlier but still
and most importantly. It launched in a lot of more countries so it should have more sales.

US:

PS4 59,085 (+2%) 2,263,631
XOne 49,809 (-11%) 2,117,358

UK:

PS4 17,547 (-15%) 627,008
XOne 8,922 (-16%) 426,152

Germany:

PS4 7,359 (-29%) 295,531
XOne 2,987 (-24%) 146,654

France:

PS4 11,704 (-6%) 286,304
XOne 3,583 (-4%) 144,741

Clearly the most important reason for the PS4 outselling the X1 is the extra countries it's released in.

So in this chart you're telling me a cheaper priced console is outselling a higher priced console? 

O_o 

People love buying cheaper items??? Thats a shocker..


PS3 sales was better than X360 sales same with a higher price, it's the difference...

Higher price? 

Last time i checked they are both the same price. 

Not now but between 2006 and 2011.

 
if I remember correctly in 2007: Jan-July: PS3: $600 X360: $400
                                                         August-December PS3: $500 X360: $350

The gap was larger than the gap between XB1 and PS4.

The gap started getting smaller after the price cut. I remember when the ps3 was reduced to $300 and the gap was still big. Then the price came down to $250. They both have been outselling each other but sometimes it was vice versa. Same way as this gen so far. The xbox one outsold the ps4 in the us during november and december even after the higher price tag.