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biglittlesps on 08 February 2014
Krill said:

Thuway's 60fps argument? Lol

Is there one game that PS4 runs locked at 60fps that XBOX One doesn't?

Is there a PS4 AAA exclusive (little indie games don't count) that runs 60fps locked?

So far, XBox One is the only console that has AAA game running 60fps locked.

I'm not denying PS4 is currently most capable console graphically but this BS needs to stop. 

Saying your games are 60fps when they are 60fps capped but can go into 30's and normally sit in the 40's is bullshit.  You guys are being played. Stop being sheep.

No one said its 60FPS locked and they just saying that PS4 can do 60FPS(it can reach this 1/3) and its averaging mostly between 45-60 every game which is said to be 60FPS. They are using this comparison only to show the power differne between PS4 and Xbox one(we are paying 100$ more for Xbox one right now) and its not to show that game is great in 60FPS from PS4. Even Xbox one which is locked at 30FPS has frame drops to 20FPS in some games and averaging between 24-28.



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

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dane007 on 08 February 2014
FlamingWeazel said:
dane007 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
dane007 said:
Aerys said:
globalisateur said:
J_Allard said:
Hope it looks good. I am a little disappointed to read in places that it's just a Sony version of Gears though.

Graphically so far it's been kind of meh. The textures in the environments have been nothing at all impressive, but the special effects have been amazing.

I agree with you. Seriously. The game will probably be great in itself because RAD never did a bad game (gameplay, fun, good metacritic) and that's what is the most important eventually.

But graphically the blurry screenshots released so far have been disappointing, I mean it looks OK but I am afraid some people will still find Ryse more next gen that the Order 1886 and IMO they will be right I am afraid . Too blurry, too cartoonish (like KZSF) and not enough sharp with ultra high resolution textures which is for me the best (easier to see) next gen "wow" effect.

But I still hope to be wrong about it.


You need to check your eyes guys, it's an emergency ! This is by far the most next gen game we saw ! But of course, if you take the worst quality screenshot...

But if you take the best screenshot :

 

it's just beyond everything we saw before, and thinking these screenshots are from old build ( october ) , stunning !

The fourth pic is CG not ingame. Again  usually high res pics look better then the game themselves. i guess feb18th can't come sooner enough lol

Proof? Keep downplaying.

Proof that its not cg?  it can go both ways. good job for trying though. i give you credit for that. On track with your repsone ,, if you look at all the images apart from that one you can clearly see that image 4 has textures that can only been done on a suped up expensive computer. i never said this game was bad looking but clearly that image is not gameplay graphics. 

The onus is on you to have proof you are the one trying to say it is CG.


Thats true but you are the one sayin gits not CG ,, where your prrof for that?  The level of detail in that pic is simialr to this which is consider as CG https://www.google.co.nz/search?newwindow=1&biw=1680&bih=949&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=PS4+1886+CG+PICS&oq=PS4+1886+CG+PICS&gs_l=img.12...4213.4213.0.5259.1.1.0.0.0.0.207.207.2-1.1.0....0...1c.1.34.img..1.0.0.3zSWDjVtcbc#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=yoDHJEbz7hmkTM%253A%3BW2f5hY0Dx6DpQM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmedia.edge-online.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252Fedgeonline%252F2013%252F12%252FThe-Order-4.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.edge-online.com%252Ffeatures%252Fart-cg-cinematics%252F%3B610%3B343 plus its simialr to the E3 vieo that we were shown and that was pure CG. tHE FACT THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN PROPER FOOTAGE OF HOWTHE GAME WORKS APART FROM FEW PICS IS NOT REALLY EVEIDENCE THAT SUPPORTS YOUR CLAIMS.  i Mean Killzone 2 was touted as suppose gameplay graphis for ps3 but later foudn out itt wasn't even clsoe to that.



biglittlesps on 08 February 2014
dane007 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
dane007 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
dane007 said:
Aerys said:
globalisateur said:
J_Allard said:
Hope it looks good. I am a little disappointed to read in places that it's just a Sony version of Gears though.

Graphically so far it's been kind of meh. The textures in the environments have been nothing at all impressive, but the special effects have been amazing.

I agree with you. Seriously. The game will probably be great in itself because RAD never did a bad game (gameplay, fun, good metacritic) and that's what is the most important eventually.

But graphically the blurry screenshots released so far have been disappointing, I mean it looks OK but I am afraid some people will still find Ryse more next gen that the Order 1886 and IMO they will be right I am afraid . Too blurry, too cartoonish (like KZSF) and not enough sharp with ultra high resolution textures which is for me the best (easier to see) next gen "wow" effect.

But I still hope to be wrong about it.


You need to check your eyes guys, it's an emergency ! This is by far the most next gen game we saw ! But of course, if you take the worst quality screenshot...

But if you take the best screenshot :

 

it's just beyond everything we saw before, and thinking these screenshots are from old build ( october ) , stunning !

The fourth pic is CG not ingame. Again  usually high res pics look better then the game themselves. i guess feb18th can't come sooner enough lol

Proof? Keep downplaying.

Proof that its not cg?  it can go both ways. good job for trying though. i give you credit for that. On track with your repsone ,, if you look at all the images apart from that one you can clearly see that image 4 has textures that can only been done on a suped up expensive computer. i never said this game was bad looking but clearly that image is not gameplay graphics. 

The onus is on you to have proof you are the one trying to say it is CG.


Thats true but you are the one sayin gits not CG ,, where your prrof for that?  The level of detail in that pic is simialr to this which is consider as CG https://www.google.co.nz/search?newwindow=1&biw=1680&bih=949&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=PS4+1886+CG+PICS&oq=PS4+1886+CG+PICS&gs_l=img.12...4213.4213.0.5259.1.1.0.0.0.0.207.207.2-1.1.0....0...1c.1.34.img..1.0.0.3zSWDjVtcbc#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=yoDHJEbz7hmkTM%253A%3BW2f5hY0Dx6DpQM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmedia.edge-online.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252Fedgeonline%252F2013%252F12%252FThe-Order-4.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.edge-online.com%252Ffeatures%252Fart-cg-cinematics%252F%3B610%3B343 plus its simialr to the E3 vieo that we were shown and that was pure CG. tHE FACT THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN PROPER FOOTAGE OF HOWTHE GAME WORKS APART FROM FEW PICS IS NOT REALLY EVEIDENCE THAT SUPPORTS YOUR CLAIMS.  i Mean Killzone 2 was touted as suppose gameplay graphis for ps3 but later foudn out itt wasn't even clsoe to that.


E3 footage is from the game engine not the pure CG. They said graphics in the game is similar to the game engine footage of E3. However, this E3 footage is very old one and current builds could be even better so those screenshots have the more probablity of game graphics.



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

dane007 on 08 February 2014
Lawlight said:
dane007 said:
tuscaniman99 said:
ethomaz said:

tuscaniman99 said:

No upscale but it isn't native 1080p and RAD admitted if it was native 1080p they would have to use a lesser form of AA, most likely FXAA. I have no doubt the game looks good but I don't expect it to look much better than Ryse, which had extremely clean IQ.

RAD said that 4xMSAA in 1920x800p was more demanding than 1080p with noAA... so I'm sure they can for example have 1080p with 2xMSAA.

Yeah... I expect it to look way better Killzone SF... so Ryse won't be close.

Ryse arguably looks better than Killzone.


Agreed. For me having both games,, i would say that Killzone has bettre environment  graphics while Ryse has better character models, aniamtion  and particle effects then Killzone. In saying taht both games are best looking next gen games so far.


Ryse is a very limited game though. Much smaller environments. Less than 70% of the pixels that KZ:SF has. Framerate is between 26-28 compared to KZ:SF's 30-40.


Have you played ryse? lol.   The area you get to explore is pretty big. Actually i never experience slow down during gameplay. it was 30 for 99% for me. iT DROP SLIGHTLY IN ONE CUTSCEN . tHE REST OF TEH GAME WS VERY SMOOTH FOR ME. hECK I EXPERIENCE SOME SLOWDOWN PLAYING kILLZONE. tHREES A LEVEL TOWRDS TEH END WHER ETHE FRAME DROPS AND ITS NOTICEABLE. dON'T KNOW IF THATS A BUG OR A ONE TIME THING BUT I EXPERIENCED IT.  sorry fro the caps as my keyboard is broken lol.  Wheres your prrof that KZ has 70% more pixels? I am woudl b einterested to read that article. RYSE if i am not mistaken as more polygons in a  main character tehn compared to killzone which has 40,000. Plus ryse teh character models are teh same for both cut scene and gameplay and every enemy on screen has teh same amount of detail then teh main character. Killzone enmies don't have such luxury. Both games are prety much limited in their own way as theres a limit to what you can do in FPS game much liek in hack and slash game.



dane007 on 08 February 2014
biglittlesps said:
dane007 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
dane007 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
dane007 said:
Aerys said:
globalisateur said:
J_Allard said:
Hope it looks good. I am a little disappointed to read in places that it's just a Sony version of Gears though.

Graphically so far it's been kind of meh. The textures in the environments have been nothing at all impressive, but the special effects have been amazing.

I agree with you. Seriously. The game will probably be great in itself because RAD never did a bad game (gameplay, fun, good metacritic) and that's what is the most important eventually.

But graphically the blurry screenshots released so far have been disappointing, I mean it looks OK but I am afraid some people will still find Ryse more next gen that the Order 1886 and IMO they will be right I am afraid . Too blurry, too cartoonish (like KZSF) and not enough sharp with ultra high resolution textures which is for me the best (easier to see) next gen "wow" effect.

But I still hope to be wrong about it.


You need to check your eyes guys, it's an emergency ! This is by far the most next gen game we saw ! But of course, if you take the worst quality screenshot...

But if you take the best screenshot :

 

it's just beyond everything we saw before, and thinking these screenshots are from old build ( october ) , stunning !

The fourth pic is CG not ingame. Again  usually high res pics look better then the game themselves. i guess feb18th can't come sooner enough lol

Proof? Keep downplaying.

Proof that its not cg?  it can go both ways. good job for trying though. i give you credit for that. On track with your repsone ,, if you look at all the images apart from that one you can clearly see that image 4 has textures that can only been done on a suped up expensive computer. i never said this game was bad looking but clearly that image is not gameplay graphics. 

The onus is on you to have proof you are the one trying to say it is CG.


Thats true but you are the one sayin gits not CG ,, where your prrof for that?  The level of detail in that pic is simialr to this which is consider as CG https://www.google.co.nz/search?newwindow=1&biw=1680&bih=949&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=PS4+1886+CG+PICS&oq=PS4+1886+CG+PICS&gs_l=img.12...4213.4213.0.5259.1.1.0.0.0.0.207.207.2-1.1.0....0...1c.1.34.img..1.0.0.3zSWDjVtcbc#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=yoDHJEbz7hmkTM%253A%3BW2f5hY0Dx6DpQM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmedia.edge-online.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252Fedgeonline%252F2013%252F12%252FThe-Order-4.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.edge-online.com%252Ffeatures%252Fart-cg-cinematics%252F%3B610%3B343 plus its simialr to the E3 vieo that we were shown and that was pure CG. tHE FACT THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN PROPER FOOTAGE OF HOWTHE GAME WORKS APART FROM FEW PICS IS NOT REALLY EVEIDENCE THAT SUPPORTS YOUR CLAIMS.  i Mean Killzone 2 was touted as suppose gameplay graphis for ps3 but later foudn out itt wasn't even clsoe to that.


E3 footage is from the game engine not the pure CG. They said graphics in the game is similar to the game engine footage of E3. However, this E3 footage is very old one and current builds could be even better so those screenshots have the more probablity of game graphics.

Lol the same thing ws said for killzone 2 e3 footage which we all know it was wrong. It was thE same for quantum break e3 footage but i takign it with a grain of salt till i see proper footage of teh game instead of pics lol.   They are just saying to hype up their game. I am sure the game will beautiful but not cg like. PS4 doesn't have the power to produce Cg quality graphis ,, let alone Xbox one. Consoles are still to waek ot do that. Hece why i am looking forward to teh trailer reveal after teh embargo has ben lifted .Hopefully we get to see proper gameplay footage



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biglittlesps on 08 February 2014
dane007 said:
Lawlight said:
dane007 said:
tuscaniman99 said:
ethomaz said:

tuscaniman99 said:

No upscale but it isn't native 1080p and RAD admitted if it was native 1080p they would have to use a lesser form of AA, most likely FXAA. I have no doubt the game looks good but I don't expect it to look much better than Ryse, which had extremely clean IQ.

RAD said that 4xMSAA in 1920x800p was more demanding than 1080p with noAA... so I'm sure they can for example have 1080p with 2xMSAA.

Yeah... I expect it to look way better Killzone SF... so Ryse won't be close.

Ryse arguably looks better than Killzone.


Agreed. For me having both games,, i would say that Killzone has bettre environment  graphics while Ryse has better character models, aniamtion  and particle effects then Killzone. In saying taht both games are best looking next gen games so far.


Ryse is a very limited game though. Much smaller environments. Less than 70% of the pixels that KZ:SF has. Framerate is between 26-28 compared to KZ:SF's 30-40.


Have you played ryse? lol.   The area you get to explore is pretty big. Actually i never experience slow down during gameplay. it was 30 for 99% for me. iT DROP SLIGHTLY IN ONE CUTSCEN . tHE REST OF TEH GAME WS VERY SMOOTH FOR ME. hECK I EXPERIENCE SOME SLOWDOWN PLAYING kILLZONE. tHREES A LEVEL TOWRDS TEH END WHER ETHE FRAME DROPS AND ITS NOTICEABLE. dON'T KNOW IF THATS A BUG OR A ONE TIME THING BUT I EXPERIENCED IT.  sorry fro the caps as my keyboard is broken lol.  Wheres your prrof that KZ has 70% more pixels? I am woudl b einterested to read that article. RYSE if i am not mistaken as more polygons in a  main character tehn compared to killzone which has 40,000. Plus ryse teh character models are teh same for both cut scene and gameplay and every enemy on screen has teh same amount of detail then teh main character. Killzone enmies don't have such luxury. Both games are prety much limited in their own way as theres a limit to what you can do in FPS game much liek in hack and slash game.

Ryse (26-28 and its 900p): http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-ryse-son-of-rome

Dead rising (20-30 and its 720p): http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-dead-rising-3 

Killzone shadow fall (30-40 SF, 40-60 MF and its 1080p): http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-the-making-of-killzone-shadow-fall

Knack (30-40 and its 1080p): http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-next-gen-now-killzone-resogun-knack



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

biglittlesps on 08 February 2014
dane007 said:
biglittlesps said:
dane007 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
dane007 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
dane007 said:
Aerys said:
globalisateur said:
J_Allard said:
Hope it looks good. I am a little disappointed to read in places that it's just a Sony version of Gears though.

Graphically so far it's been kind of meh. The textures in the environments have been nothing at all impressive, but the special effects have been amazing.

I agree with you. Seriously. The game will probably be great in itself because RAD never did a bad game (gameplay, fun, good metacritic) and that's what is the most important eventually.

But graphically the blurry screenshots released so far have been disappointing, I mean it looks OK but I am afraid some people will still find Ryse more next gen that the Order 1886 and IMO they will be right I am afraid . Too blurry, too cartoonish (like KZSF) and not enough sharp with ultra high resolution textures which is for me the best (easier to see) next gen "wow" effect.

But I still hope to be wrong about it.


You need to check your eyes guys, it's an emergency ! This is by far the most next gen game we saw ! But of course, if you take the worst quality screenshot...

But if you take the best screenshot :

 

it's just beyond everything we saw before, and thinking these screenshots are from old build ( october ) , stunning !

The fourth pic is CG not ingame. Again  usually high res pics look better then the game themselves. i guess feb18th can't come sooner enough lol

Proof? Keep downplaying.

Proof that its not cg?  it can go both ways. good job for trying though. i give you credit for that. On track with your repsone ,, if you look at all the images apart from that one you can clearly see that image 4 has textures that can only been done on a suped up expensive computer. i never said this game was bad looking but clearly that image is not gameplay graphics. 

The onus is on you to have proof you are the one trying to say it is CG.


Thats true but you are the one sayin gits not CG ,, where your prrof for that?  The level of detail in that pic is simialr to this which is consider as CG https://www.google.co.nz/search?newwindow=1&biw=1680&bih=949&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=PS4+1886+CG+PICS&oq=PS4+1886+CG+PICS&gs_l=img.12...4213.4213.0.5259.1.1.0.0.0.0.207.207.2-1.1.0....0...1c.1.34.img..1.0.0.3zSWDjVtcbc#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=yoDHJEbz7hmkTM%253A%3BW2f5hY0Dx6DpQM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmedia.edge-online.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252Fedgeonline%252F2013%252F12%252FThe-Order-4.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.edge-online.com%252Ffeatures%252Fart-cg-cinematics%252F%3B610%3B343 plus its simialr to the E3 vieo that we were shown and that was pure CG. tHE FACT THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN PROPER FOOTAGE OF HOWTHE GAME WORKS APART FROM FEW PICS IS NOT REALLY EVEIDENCE THAT SUPPORTS YOUR CLAIMS.  i Mean Killzone 2 was touted as suppose gameplay graphis for ps3 but later foudn out itt wasn't even clsoe to that.


E3 footage is from the game engine not the pure CG. They said graphics in the game is similar to the game engine footage of E3. However, this E3 footage is very old one and current builds could be even better so those screenshots have the more probablity of game graphics.

Lol the same thing ws said for killzone 2 e3 footage which we all know it was wrong. It was thE same for quantum break e3 footage but i takign it with a grain of salt till i see proper footage of teh game instead of pics lol.   They are just saying to hype up their game. I am sure the game will beautiful but not cg like. PS4 doesn't have the power to produce Cg quality graphis ,, let alone Xbox one. Consoles are still to waek ot do that. Hece why i am looking forward to teh trailer reveal after teh embargo has ben lifted .Hopefully we get to see proper gameplay footage

PS3 architecture was wierd one to develop for developers so the lauch games could not do what they expected but PS4 architecture is developer friendly and it has everything needed for developer to get things done quickly with faster/more ram, powerful GPU/CPU(APU) computing, Low level API, additional hardware to balance and remove bottlenecks. So, i expect some great things from PS4 and order 1886 without a doubt.

EDIT: Even more RAD has developed God of war games for PSP which is best looking games that pushed PSP hardware. So, i have confidence that RAD is capable of doing such graphics.



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

dane007 on 08 February 2014
biglittlesps said:
dane007 said:
Lawlight said:
dane007 said:
tuscaniman99 said:
ethomaz said:

tuscaniman99 said:

No upscale but it isn't native 1080p and RAD admitted if it was native 1080p they would have to use a lesser form of AA, most likely FXAA. I have no doubt the game looks good but I don't expect it to look much better than Ryse, which had extremely clean IQ.

RAD said that 4xMSAA in 1920x800p was more demanding than 1080p with noAA... so I'm sure they can for example have 1080p with 2xMSAA.

Yeah... I expect it to look way better Killzone SF... so Ryse won't be close.

Ryse arguably looks better than Killzone.


Agreed. For me having both games,, i would say that Killzone has bettre environment  graphics while Ryse has better character models, aniamtion  and particle effects then Killzone. In saying taht both games are best looking next gen games so far.


Ryse is a very limited game though. Much smaller environments. Less than 70% of the pixels that KZ:SF has. Framerate is between 26-28 compared to KZ:SF's 30-40.


Have you played ryse? lol.   The area you get to explore is pretty big. Actually i never experience slow down during gameplay. it was 30 for 99% for me. iT DROP SLIGHTLY IN ONE CUTSCEN . tHE REST OF TEH GAME WS VERY SMOOTH FOR ME. hECK I EXPERIENCE SOME SLOWDOWN PLAYING kILLZONE. tHREES A LEVEL TOWRDS TEH END WHER ETHE FRAME DROPS AND ITS NOTICEABLE. dON'T KNOW IF THATS A BUG OR A ONE TIME THING BUT I EXPERIENCED IT.  sorry fro the caps as my keyboard is broken lol.  Wheres your prrof that KZ has 70% more pixels? I am woudl b einterested to read that article. RYSE if i am not mistaken as more polygons in a  main character tehn compared to killzone which has 40,000. Plus ryse teh character models are teh same for both cut scene and gameplay and every enemy on screen has teh same amount of detail then teh main character. Killzone enmies don't have such luxury. Both games are prety much limited in their own way as theres a limit to what you can do in FPS game much liek in hack and slash game.

Ryse (26-28 and its 900p): http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-ryse-son-of-rome

Dead rising (20-30 and its 720p): http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-dead-rising-3 

Killzone shadow fall (30-40 SF, 40-60 MF and its 1080p): http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-the-making-of-killzone-shadow-fall

Knack (30-40 and its 1080p): http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-next-gen-now-killzone-resogun-knack


i know i have read themall. however the videos that df puts doesnot show for teh entire game. Its just sections of it.. I played through both ruyse and killzone and i experienced no lag for ryse whil ei was in controller of teh character.  D3 only has lag when you have thousands of zombies in area an dtonnes of car and you blow all of them up in one go. The patch for D3 on launch day really helps. The games is mostly smooth until you have that situation. Its not bad considering its a hige open world with thousands upon thousands of zombies with zero loading time. Itstruly great an dfun to play. It doesn't matter if its 900p or 1080p ,, even at 900p ryse is touted as bets looking game for next gen. For me ryse and killzone are tie for best llooking next gen as both hav etheir iwn strenghts an dweakness.  The thing is have you plaeyd ryse? Just want ot know.



dane007 on 08 February 2014
biglittlesps said:
dane007 said:
biglittlesps said:
dane007 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
dane007 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
dane007 said:
Aerys said:
globalisateur said:
J_Allard said:
Hope it looks good. I am a little disappointed to read in places that it's just a Sony version of Gears though.

Graphically so far it's been kind of meh. The textures in the environments have been nothing at all impressive, but the special effects have been amazing.

I agree with you. Seriously. The game will probably be great in itself because RAD never did a bad game (gameplay, fun, good metacritic) and that's what is the most important eventually.

But graphically the blurry screenshots released so far have been disappointing, I mean it looks OK but I am afraid some people will still find Ryse more next gen that the Order 1886 and IMO they will be right I am afraid . Too blurry, too cartoonish (like KZSF) and not enough sharp with ultra high resolution textures which is for me the best (easier to see) next gen "wow" effect.

But I still hope to be wrong about it.


You need to check your eyes guys, it's an emergency ! This is by far the most next gen game we saw ! But of course, if you take the worst quality screenshot...

But if you take the best screenshot :

 

it's just beyond everything we saw before, and thinking these screenshots are from old build ( october ) , stunning !

The fourth pic is CG not ingame. Again  usually high res pics look better then the game themselves. i guess feb18th can't come sooner enough lol

Proof? Keep downplaying.

Proof that its not cg?  it can go both ways. good job for trying though. i give you credit for that. On track with your repsone ,, if you look at all the images apart from that one you can clearly see that image 4 has textures that can only been done on a suped up expensive computer. i never said this game was bad looking but clearly that image is not gameplay graphics. 

The onus is on you to have proof you are the one trying to say it is CG.


Thats true but you are the one sayin gits not CG ,, where your prrof for that?  The level of detail in that pic is simialr to this which is consider as CG https://www.google.co.nz/search?newwindow=1&biw=1680&bih=949&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=PS4+1886+CG+PICS&oq=PS4+1886+CG+PICS&gs_l=img.12...4213.4213.0.5259.1.1.0.0.0.0.207.207.2-1.1.0....0...1c.1.34.img..1.0.0.3zSWDjVtcbc#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=yoDHJEbz7hmkTM%253A%3BW2f5hY0Dx6DpQM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fmedia.edge-online.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252Fedgeonline%252F2013%252F12%252FThe-Order-4.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.edge-online.com%252Ffeatures%252Fart-cg-cinematics%252F%3B610%3B343 plus its simialr to the E3 vieo that we were shown and that was pure CG. tHE FACT THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN PROPER FOOTAGE OF HOWTHE GAME WORKS APART FROM FEW PICS IS NOT REALLY EVEIDENCE THAT SUPPORTS YOUR CLAIMS.  i Mean Killzone 2 was touted as suppose gameplay graphis for ps3 but later foudn out itt wasn't even clsoe to that.


E3 footage is from the game engine not the pure CG. They said graphics in the game is similar to the game engine footage of E3. However, this E3 footage is very old one and current builds could be even better so those screenshots have the more probablity of game graphics.

Lol the same thing ws said for killzone 2 e3 footage which we all know it was wrong. It was thE same for quantum break e3 footage but i takign it with a grain of salt till i see proper footage of teh game instead of pics lol.   They are just saying to hype up their game. I am sure the game will beautiful but not cg like. PS4 doesn't have the power to produce Cg quality graphis ,, let alone Xbox one. Consoles are still to waek ot do that. Hece why i am looking forward to teh trailer reveal after teh embargo has ben lifted .Hopefully we get to see proper gameplay footage

PS3 architecture was wierd one to develop for developers so the lauch games could not do what they expected but PS4 architecture is developer friendly and it has everything needed for developer to get things done quickly with faster/more ram, powerful GPU/CPU(APU) computing, Low level API, additional hardware to balance and remove bottlenecks. So, i expect some great things from PS4 and order 1886 without a doubt.

EDIT: Even more RAD has developed God of war games for PSP which is best looking games that pushed PSP hardware. So, i have confidence that RAD is capable of doing such graphics.

Same with xbox one drive which will only get better in time much liek ps3 did eventually. The most important thing is that both are doing succcessful and both churning out awesome games ofr the next 8 years.The ghost of sparta for the psp ws too much fo rpsp to handle as it had slowdown. I know its user friendly which is a good thign but the amount ofpwer both next gen consoles have in them,, makes it impossible for it to produce CG like level of quality for gameplay graphics. I hope teh graphics in 1886 is liek that or even better but we will only know in due time. If it is ,, great fo rus who have a ps4 ! lol. 



ethomaz on 08 February 2014

tuscaniman99 said:

Ryse arguably looks better than Killzone.

Nope. Played both maybe the pre-rendered scenes but gameplay not.

Killzone looks better, shaper and had way more things happening on screen... the dinamic draw distance is bigger too... sometimes you stop and think how fuck they did that on consoles in how clean the Killzone image is... sad it don't have a good SP but the MP is the best from all games released for both consoles.