tbone51 said: Tower said: GTA 6 on the PS4 will beat it. Are you so sure???

You can never be completely sure about things that will happen years from now, but it seem like a very high chance to me.

bubblegamer said: GTA6 on PS4 or X1 could. Call of Duty on PS4 or X1 could. Halo 5 on X1 could. Gran Turismo on PS4 could. One of those will happen.

Well it depends when GTA6 is release imo. That great Userbase helped out GTA5, GTA4 sold around 10mil. XY will sell over 15mil. But like i said GTA6 wont probably release intill 2018/2019 so it definitely has a chance. The others i dont think. Halo 3 is the highest selling halo and it sold less than 12mil. Halo 4 sold less than 9mil despite having such a huge launch (i think it had 7.5mil First Year! Call of Duty sold best on X360 (highest is 14mil). X1 wont have that same usebase imo also it looks like it'll decline (this we have to wait and see) Gran Turismo highest is 15mil, all others sold 10-12mil. Even though GT6 is selling much less i think GT7 could surpass it easily and do another 10mil but not 15mil. So only one maybe is GTA. I think its safe to say Pokemon XY will be the highest selling exclusive at least of gen 8 :)

I don't see X/Y reaching 15m. Even if it should be quite easy for GTAVI. Also Possibilities there for new IPs.
And don't underestimate the indies. Another Minecraft and that number can be beaten easily.

I think it's unfair to compare 2 Pokemon games to a game such as Halo. Some people buy both versions of Pokemon but will only buy one copy of Halo.

vivster said: I don't see X/Y reaching 15m. Even if it should be quite easy for GTAVI. Also Possibilities there for new IPs. And don't underestimate the indies. Another Minecraft and that number can be beaten easily.

Really? you dont see XY reaching 15mil? What do you thinkXY will be in lifetime sales? 13mil? 

Take a look at this http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=177507&page=1#10

XY has sold 10mil First year which is undertracked by about a million still!

aryu said: I think it's unfair to compare 2 Pokemon games to a game such as Halo. Some people buy both versions of Pokemon but will only buy one copy of Halo.

Some people yes but not as many as you think. Most people just trade from exclusives/etc with others. Some have siblings/cousins/friends with other versions. i think there are a small percentage that actually buy both versions, maybe like 1 out of every 20-25 so 4-5%(this meaning they buy it for themselves!)

tbone51 said: aryu said: I think it's unfair to compare 2 Pokemon games to a game such as Halo. Some people buy both versions of Pokemon but will only buy one copy of Halo. Some people yes but not as many as you think. Most people just trade from exclusives/etc with others. Some have siblings/cousins/friends with other versions. i think there are a small percentage that actually buy both versions, maybe like 1 out of every 20-25 so 4-5%(this meaning they buy it for themselves!)

How are you even arriving to this? I could say 1 in every 4 buy both versions, doesn't mean I'm right. We have nothing to go on. Even my little nephew got my cousin to buy him X after he finished Y. There might also be confusion over which version someone might want so it's also possible that at Christmas, someone gets both X and Y.

Some parents might think that you have to buy both games to obtain the full game given the fact that they are called X and Y. Some may even think that Y is a sequel to X.

tbone51 said: vivster said: I don't see X/Y reaching 15m. Even if it should be quite easy for GTAVI. Also Possibilities there for new IPs. And don't underestimate the indies. Another Minecraft and that number can be beaten easily. Really? you dont see XY reaching 15mil? What do you thinkXY will be in lifetime sales? 13mil? Take a look at this http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=177507&page=1#10 XY has sold 10mil First year which is undertracked by about a million still!

I think Pokemon has already peaked. B/W didn't do very good despite the huge install base. That X/Y sold so much so far is a mircacle on its own.

13m would be possible. 15m seems like a stretch.

vivster said: tbone51 said: vivster said: I don't see X/Y reaching 15m. Even if it should be quite easy for GTAVI. Also Possibilities there for new IPs. And don't underestimate the indies. Another Minecraft and that number can be beaten easily. Really? you dont see XY reaching 15mil? What do you thinkXY will be in lifetime sales? 13mil? Take a look at this http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=177507&page=1#10 XY has sold 10mil First year which is undertracked by about a million still! I think Pokemon has already peaked. B/W didn't do very good despite the huge install base. That X/Y sold so much so far is a mircacle on its own. 13m would be possible. 15m seems like a stretch.

Pokemon Peaked when it first came out so thats that :P

Now yes BW had the biggest install base but so did GT6 or Halo 4 for their platforms so thats not fair in a way... Thats something we usually see on a dying HH/Console, also BW supposedly is the worst of the bunch(terms of story/pokemon/etc). IT Had records of being the fastest sold (though ironically its the worse selling lmao).

XY has sold 9.94mil (which is undertracked by over a million) in 2013. I dont know why you think 13mil is possible and 15mil is a stretch for? 

Its only been (these numbers) 3 months since release. Pokemon XY should hit close to or over 13mil before holiday 2014 even starts! Its literally over 11mil now! Its fast selling cuz its the best pokemon in a long time, dont kno why you think its a miracle. Gamefreak came out and delivered.

Just asking but why do you think pokemon sold this well cuz of a miracle? Was it suppose to sell alot less? One more thing, why dont you think pokemon XY will not sell more than 2-4mil when it just released? (im not trying to be an *** just making Conversation *i need to teach you the ways of being the vey best :p

tbone51 said: Anfebious said: What I'm more interested for is how it will compare to the other Pokemon games. Will it end up doing better than Pokemon Pearl/Diamond? Its hard to tell. One thing is pokemon Diamond/Pearl was on DS. Every game had a better chance to sell on it than on 3DS. That said XY will hit imo one of 2 sales. Scenario 1= 15mil-17mil : If a successor (XY2/Z) or Remakes (in short a new main game) is announced and released in 2014 Scenario 2= 16mil-19mil : If Scenario 1 happens in 2015. Diamond/Pearl benefited imo from having Platinum release almost 2 years later!

I think Scenario 2 is far more likely.  2 reasons:

 

1.  Pokemon Bank isn't even up worldwide yet.  That is necessary for those who want to complete the Pokedex.  Therefore, most people  have not yet even "finished" the game.  It will probably take at least a few months after the whole Bank crisis is over for Z or Hoenn remakes to even be announced,

 

2.  Worldwide Release:  The global audience got XY just a year after B2W2 because localization wait periods have been shrinking for generations.  Now that we have made it to worldwide releases (which I hope this stays this way), the whole world will be the slower release schedule that Japan is used to.