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Kane1389 on 05 February 2014
curl-6 said:

Graphically it's a bigger leap over Wii than PS4/Xbone are over PS3/360, yes.

 


Yet the gap between U and PS4 is similar to the gap between Wii and PS3...



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curl-6 on 05 February 2014
Kane1389 said:
curl-6 said:

Graphically it's a bigger leap over Wii than PS4/Xbone are over PS3/360, yes.

 


Yet the gap between U and PS4 is similar to the gap between Wii and PS3...

Actually it isn't.

Two huge factors, SD to HD, and programmable shaders, separated Wii and PS3. There are no such fundamental divides between Wii U and PS4. 



Lafiel on 05 February 2014

I hate how that guys spends all the video to explain what he "isn't saying", he should rather give us examples how what he stated is true.



NeoRatt on 05 February 2014
curl-6 said:
NeoRatt said:
curl-6 said:
NeoRatt said:

From a corporation resources perspective the corporations are moving their resources to the 8th generation. Yes, that is true.

But, from a consumer perspective there is still significant demand for 7th generation consoles.  So, consumers have not ended the 7th generation.

10 years from now when people talk about sales of 7th generation consoles they aren't going to use the sales figures up to last December for the Wii, and this November for the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.  They will look at the total sales up until the console manufacturers stopped shipping them to retail.  That won't be for another 3-5 years probably for PS3 and 360.

Look at PlayStation 2 sales.  All sources who talk about PS2 sales talk about how it sold 150,000,000+ units.  Well that didn't happen until well after the PS3 was released.  Sony announced 150 million on February 14, 2011... http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/110214_e.html...  So, even the manufacturers of the consoles continue to count sales of the previous generation after a new generation is released.

VGChartz platform totals numbers point to the fact generations are not considered over until the devices aren't being manufactured anymore...  http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/.  Again showing PS2 over 150 million units even though that happened a full 5 years after PS3 was released.  In fact, VGC still tracks new Wii, PS3, and X360 sales for some mysterious reason.  If your logic was sound then why are they still showing the Wii, PS3, and 360 total numbers growing?

And do a search on google for "150 million PS2" and you will find a variety of reputable sites that support the 150+ million number as being accurate for PS2 sales.

I challenge you to find a single news source since February 14, 2011 that uses PS2 sales numbers as of November 2006 as total sales for the 6th generation sales.

 

Generations are not defined by how long the systems sit on shelves for. It's not still the baby boomer generation just because there are baby boomers still alive.

There is still a baby boomer generation and their numbers are being tracked.

But we don't live in the "baby boomer" generation anymore. 

There are no more baby boomers.  You are correct.

But, like I said, I challenge you to find a single news source since February 14, 2011 that uses PS2 sales numbers as of November 2006 as total sales for the 6th generation sales.

According to everyone the PS2 sold 150,000,000+ million consoles during its generation.  That number was achieved long after the PS3 released.  And in 10 years they will not say the Wii sold 100 mill, PS3/360 80 mill.  They will say what the numbers were after manufacturing of the consoles ceased.



curl-6 on 05 February 2014
NeoRatt said:
curl-6 said:
NeoRatt said:
curl-6 said:

Generations are not defined by how long the systems sit on shelves for. It's not still the baby boomer generation just because there are baby boomers still alive.

There is still a baby boomer generation and their numbers are being tracked.

But we don't live in the "baby boomer" generation anymore. 

There are no more baby boomers.  You are correct.

But, like I said, I challenge you to find a single news source since February 14, 2011 that uses PS2 sales numbers as of November 2006 as total sales for the 6th generation sales.

According to everyone the PS2 sold 150,000,000+ million consoles during its generation.  That number was achieved long after the PS3 released.  And in 10 years they will not say the Wii sold 100 mill, PS3/360 80 mill.  They will say what the numbers were after manufacturing of the consoles ceased.

You can't win a race after the race has ended.



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Darkjolly on 05 February 2014

If by leap you mean , THEY FINALLY went HD and added once again another gimmick to their console then yeah

Nintendo is the most ''daring'' this gen.



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NeoRatt on 05 February 2014
curl-6 said:
NeoRatt said:
curl-6 said:
NeoRatt said:
curl-6 said:

Generations are not defined by how long the systems sit on shelves for. It's not still the baby boomer generation just because there are baby boomers still alive.

There is still a baby boomer generation and their numbers are being tracked.

But we don't live in the "baby boomer" generation anymore. 

There are no more baby boomers.  You are correct.

But, like I said, I challenge you to find a single news source since February 14, 2011 that uses PS2 sales numbers as of November 2006 as total sales for the 6th generation sales.

According to everyone the PS2 sold 150,000,000+ million consoles during its generation.  That number was achieved long after the PS3 released.  And in 10 years they will not say the Wii sold 100 mill, PS3/360 80 mill.  They will say what the numbers were after manufacturing of the consoles ceased.

You can't win a race after the race has ended.

MS, Sony, and Nintendo are still manufacturing their 7th gen consoles, so they obviously don't think the race has ended.  What we are bickering about is when the race ends.  History will judge the 7th gen race on when the consoles quit being manufactured.  That is how every generation has been judged to date.

Its that simple.



curl-6 on 05 February 2014
NeoRatt said:

MS, Sony, and Nintendo are still manufacturing their 7th gen consoles, so they obviously don't think the race has ended.  What we are bickering about is when the race ends.  History will judge the 7th gen race on when the consoles quit being manufactured.  That is how every generation has been judged to date.

Its that simple.

If they started selling N64s again and managed to sell more than the PS1 in total, it still wouldn't have won the 5th gen, any more than Germany can retroactively win WW2. PS4, Xbone, and Wii U are out now; the 8th gen has begun, the 7th is in the past.



NightDragon83 on 05 February 2014

Yeah, it's amazing what jumping from SD to HD can do for you visually.

Too bad Nintendo was nearly a decade late to the party.



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NeoRatt on 05 February 2014
curl-6 said:
NeoRatt said:

MS, Sony, and Nintendo are still manufacturing their 7th gen consoles, so they obviously don't think the race has ended.  What we are bickering about is when the race ends.  History will judge the 7th gen race on when the consoles quit being manufactured.  That is how every generation has been judged to date.

Its that simple.

If they started selling N64s again and managed to sell more than the PS1 in total, it still wouldn't have won the 5th gen, any more than Germany can retroactively win WW2. PS4, Xbone, and Wii U are out now; the 8th gen has begun, the 7th is in the past.

They haven't stopped manufacturing their 7th gen consoles yet.  If Nintendo restarted manufacturing N64's nobody would count them because the product was declared retired a long time ago.  Germany threw up the white flag for WW II.  None of the 7th generation console manufacturers have stopped manufacturing or threw in the white towel yet.

In fact, 360 is looking like one of its best years in the last 3-5...  They have put out Halo Spartan Assault, Fable Anniversary, and will ship Max Curse of Brotherhood and World of Tanks next week.  Not to mention the Warface beta is starting and in March they will have Titanfall.  And in September 360 users will get Destiny.  I don't know how that shows the 7th gen is over.

The PS3 is also getting a good lineup of exclusive and multi-platform content. 

If the gen is over, someone sure forgot to tell the console manufacturers that.