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Hynad on 31 January 2014
the-pi-guy said:
Hynad said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:
jlmurph2 said:

Have they? I was under the impression that they started development with a small team Summer 2012 and then full development after TLOU came out.

Where did you hear that may I ask?


And where did you hear they started working on it since Uncharted 3 released may I ask?

¬_¬

Why what do you think happened?  


First, vacation. Second, post release content for Uncharted 3.  Third, who knows if their coders haven't helped the other team. The game has most likely been in pre-pruduction for a while now, but who knows when actual production started. The team still had to develop new tech, maybe tweak their engine for the new hardware, etc... There could be many reasons why they wouldn't start right away.

People always assume things as being the actual truth as if they knew any better than everyone else, when they don't have hard facts to support their claims any more than the ones having differing assumptions. KingdomHeartsFan is no different here.



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mibuokami on 31 January 2014
Raven722 said:
mibuokami said:
the-pi-guy said:
jlmurph2 said:
Did anyone really expect 2014?

I see no reason why not!  

They're not gonna release 2 Third Person game within the same 3 month period during the first Holiday, that would be very counter productive. As soon as the Order 1886 got pushed to later in the year, it was a given that Uncharted would be a 2015 game.


A third person view is the only thing Uncharted seems to have in common with The Order. I really don't think it's a big deal to release a Gears of War-esque third-person shooter within three months of a Tomb Raider-esque third-person action platformer. That would be like worrying that Skyrim was going to take sales away from Battlefield 3.

Gears of War and Tomb Raider do not come from the same publisher. No publisher will try to push out 2 games that so closely resembling each other from a cursory prespective unless they have no faith in one of the game and just want to to push it out.

Irrespective of difference, both are Third Person Action Adventure, with an emphasis on 'filmic' expirience with a big part of the gameplay being shooting at stuff, they will definitely eat into each other's sale.





RawrJa on 31 January 2014
Raven722 said:
Just in case anyone isn't aware, since it sounds like some people think Naughty Dog is a single team studio, they actually run with two full teams. The studio was split after Uncharted 2 with one team working on a sequel while the other team worked on a new IP that ended up being The Last of Us. The team that did Uncharted 3 has been working on the next game since shortly after they finished their last project. Unless you want to believe that the team which did Uncharted 3 took a vacation of one year or longer.

A Naughty Dog team has never taken longer than three and a half years to release a game after their last project. That game was The Last of Us which was a new IP that was started right after the studio split in two and it was delayed. It's not like this is a new IP. They've been working on this franchise for quite a few years now. It being on a new platform hardly matters considering who we're talking about. A studio that released a new IP on a new platform within two years of its last project for three generations in a row (Crash Bandicoot, Jak & Daxter, Uncharted).

So if you're wondering why anyone would believe that Uncharted 4 is coming within three years after the last Uncharted game and not even being bothered that The Last of Us launched last summer, that's why.

Even though Naughty Dog has two teams, we do not know when they started working on Uncharted 4. 



cura on 31 January 2014

I think ND stated that they will be using the same engine they used for the last of us for future games. From memory  I saw it in an interview with one of the ND developers talking about the last of us.

I still think there is a reasonable chance that it will release in 2014:
- Uncharted 1, 2, 3 all released in the fourth quarter of their respective years
- Uncharted is a big franchise for Sony and I believe Sony will be pushing for a Nov 2014 to push console sales
- Both uncharted 2 and 3 were announced with a teaser trailer one year prior to their release.
- From my understanding, ND broke off into two teams after Uncharted 2: one team focusing on Uncharted 3 and the other focusing on the last of us.
- Delaying the game into Q1/Q2 2015 would be a bad decision IMO, and releasing it in Q4 2015 would seem excessive to me (that  would mean there has been a 2 year gap since annoucing the game and then releasing it...highly unlikely)
- I assume ND can bring members from one team to join the other team to help with development, thereby speeding up production.

The only thing I can see which would potentially delay the game into the next year would be the unfamiliarity with developing for the PS4. Given ND's past technical wizardry, I doubt that this would be the case.

One last thing, this is the fourth game in the series (by ND) and so they already have things set in stone, whereas if they werebe making a new ip, they would have to start with nothing but an idea. 



Raven722 on 31 January 2014
RawrJa said:
Raven722 said:
Just in case anyone isn't aware, since it sounds like some people think Naughty Dog is a single team studio, they actually run with two full teams. The studio was split after Uncharted 2 with one team working on a sequel while the other team worked on a new IP that ended up being The Last of Us. The team that did Uncharted 3 has been working on the next game since shortly after they finished their last project. Unless you want to believe that the team which did Uncharted 3 took a vacation of one year or longer.

A Naughty Dog team has never taken longer than three and a half years to release a game after their last project. That game was The Last of Us which was a new IP that was started right after the studio split in two and it was delayed. It's not like this is a new IP. They've been working on this franchise for quite a few years now. It being on a new platform hardly matters considering who we're talking about. A studio that released a new IP on a new platform within two years of its last project for three generations in a row (Crash Bandicoot, Jak & Daxter, Uncharted).

So if you're wondering why anyone would believe that Uncharted 4 is coming within three years after the last Uncharted game and not even being bothered that The Last of Us launched last summer, that's why.

Even though Naughty Dog has two teams, we do not know when they started working on Uncharted 4. 

I seriously doubt they spent a year or so sitting around the office and looking at each other while the other team worked on The Last of Us.



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jlmurph2 on 31 January 2014
Hynad said:
the-pi-guy said:
Hynad said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:
jlmurph2 said:

Have they? I was under the impression that they started development with a small team Summer 2012 and then full development after TLOU came out.

Where did you hear that may I ask?


And where did you hear they started working on it since Uncharted 3 released may I ask?

¬_¬

Why what do you think happened?  


First, vacation. Second, post release content for Uncharted 3.  Third, who knows if their coders haven't helped the other team. The game has most likely been in pre-pruduction for a while now, but who knows when actual production started. The team still had to develop new tech, maybe tweak their engine for the new hardware, etc... There could be many reasons why they wouldn't start right away.

People always assume things as being the actual truth as if they knew any better than everyone else, when they don't have hard facts to support their claims any more than the ones having differing assumptions. KingdomHeartsFan is no different here.


Pretty much this



Raven722 on 31 January 2014
mibuokami said:
Raven722 said:
mibuokami said:
the-pi-guy said:
jlmurph2 said:
Did anyone really expect 2014?

I see no reason why not!  

They're not gonna release 2 Third Person game within the same 3 month period during the first Holiday, that would be very counter productive. As soon as the Order 1886 got pushed to later in the year, it was a given that Uncharted would be a 2015 game.


A third person view is the only thing Uncharted seems to have in common with The Order. I really don't think it's a big deal to release a Gears of War-esque third-person shooter within three months of a Tomb Raider-esque third-person action platformer. That would be like worrying that Skyrim was going to take sales away from Battlefield 3.

Gears of War and Tomb Raider do not come from the same publisher. No publisher will try to push out 2 games that so closely resembling each other from a cursory prespective unless they have no faith in one of the game and just want to to push it out.

Irrespective of difference, both are Third Person Action Adventure, with an emphasis on 'filmic' expirience with a big part of the gameplay being shooting at stuff, they will definitely eat into each other's sale.

If The Order launched in August or so and Uncharted launched in November that's not going to cause a sales issue. The bulk of The Orders sales would have likely already happened by the time Uncharted launched and at a far enough space apart where people could easily afford both. Even with that, I still don't think that their moderate similarities would be cause for concern considering that one seems far more angled at intense shooting action while the other is much more platform-based with some puzzle solving and much less focus on gunplay. If I were making the call I would pull the trigger and have them both release within a few months of each other. Gears of War and Tomb Raider don't play anything like each other and most people will see that right off the bat. They're not going to go, "Nope. The camera is third person just like that other game plus it has heavy cinematic elements too. They play a lot differently but it's the same thing".



Raven722 on 31 January 2014
shikamaru317 said:
jlmurph2 said:
Did anyone really expect 2014?

I never did, seemed like wishful thinking, Holiday 2014 is only a year and a half from the release of The Last Of Us, even if they had a team working on Uncharted 4 before The Last of Us was finished, and the full TLOU dev team switched over to Uncharted 4 after TLOU's release (which obviously couldn't have happened because they did multiplayer and a singleplayer DLC which still isn't finished), a Hliday 2014 release would be very difficult to make.


Again, Naughty Dog runs two full teams. They were working on The Last of Us and Uncharted 3 at the same time.



Raven722 on 31 January 2014
shikamaru317 said:
Raven722 said:
shikamaru317 said:
jlmurph2 said:
Did anyone really expect 2014?

I never did, seemed like wishful thinking, Holiday 2014 is only a year and a half from the release of The Last Of Us, even if they had a team working on Uncharted 4 before The Last of Us was finished, and the full TLOU dev team switched over to Uncharted 4 after TLOU's release (which obviously couldn't have happened because they did multiplayer and a singleplayer DLC which still isn't finished), a Hliday 2014 release would be very difficult to make.


Again, Naughty Dog runs two full teams. They were working on The Last of Us and Uncharted 3 at the same time.


Even so, with their rumored employee count, a 50/50 split would make the Uncharted 4 team small enough that a 2014 release would still be difficult to make. 

Yet they did Uncharted 3 in two years. The same as they did with Uncharted 2 when it was all one big team. The Last of Us took as long as it did, 3.5 years, because it was a new IP right after the studio split and I heard they made some significant changes to the game in mid-development.



arcane_chaos on 31 January 2014

BAH!!! thought this would happen...as long as we see some gameplay at E3 or Gamescom it will be okay