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RazorDragon on 27 January 2014
Figgycal said:

An obvious downward trend followed by a huge spike that defies pretty much all logic; and then followed by a huge dropoff for the Wii in its later years and it's successor. That's pretty indicative of a fad. Notice how in the same year that the Wii had a 31% drop in sales- the PS3 and 360 were actually up yoy... and were consistently selling better than the Wii over a longer period of time. The fact that it's still selling software made for the casual audience is because of its 100 mil+ stong install base of a mostly casual audience.


Dropoff in hardware sales was caused by the lack of games. Nintendo almost completely stopped support in 2011 and so did third parties a little later, and even then Wii managed to sell close to the sales of 360 and PS3 in 2011, lacking almost any new game. How that's a fad i'm not sure.



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Multishanks on 27 January 2014

Three things.

1. He is right about Nintendo promoting the Wii U.
2. Who is he?
3. Wii was not a fad. If so, so is the gameboy, DS, portable CD players,



BeElite on 27 January 2014
Corvo said:
BeElite said:
Dudes right on everything. People don't want the wiiu, ninty did do a shit job marketing it. Its not the job of retailers to market products. Shit bestbuy had $220 and $250 wiiu bundles here, that's how desperate they were to rid them self's of stock. Wii was a fad and its generally accepted as such, get over it accept it its reality. Why cant people just accept that ? what's so wrong with accepting the truth of the product or stating it, mainstream picked it up like one sold like it and became irrelevant as one.

 

From VGC data, Wii still selling and sold extremally well on 5 years. Fad is ''a thing that becomes very popular in a short amount of time, and then is forgotten at about the same speed.'' I dont think 5 years is a fad... Also why can't you accept that the Wii outsold hard the ps3 and 360? People just cant go on that Nintendo was the winner of last gen... Back in some years ago, comparing ps2 to ps3 shows that ps3 was a fad too... No one wrote bash articles/comments calling it a fad as long I rembember....

 

LoL where the hell did i deny the fact it out sold them ?? yahh no where.  Ninty won the sales last gen and..... 

But it was a fad waggle was a fad, waggles irrelevance in gaming now shows waggle was a fad.  There is no set time for a fad, some last short other plod along for a few years as the wii did but they all become irrelevent as wii and waggle has. soe fads last a year liek waring stupid clothing whiel huge ricer wings on cars lasted nearly a decade.

How are PS2 to PS3 sales anywhere similar with wii and wiiu ???  Wiiu will be luckly to sale 20m, selling one fifth of the wii compared to Ps3 selling + half of PS2.  I guess you dont see a difference there ? so this is almost pointless, but stop being foolish making baseless analogies that make no sense just to defend a fad.  Wii sold great but it sold due to it being a fad. 

 



supernihilist on 27 January 2014
BeElite said:
Corvo said:
BeElite said:
Dudes right on everything. People don't want the wiiu, ninty did do a shit job marketing it. Its not the job of retailers to market products. Shit bestbuy had $220 and $250 wiiu bundles here, that's how desperate they were to rid them self's of stock. Wii was a fad and its generally accepted as such, get over it accept it its reality. Why cant people just accept that ? what's so wrong with accepting the truth of the product or stating it, mainstream picked it up like one sold like it and became irrelevant as one.

 

From VGC data, Wii still selling and sold extremally well on 5 years. Fad is ''a thing that becomes very popular in a short amount of time, and then is forgotten at about the same speed.'' I dont think 5 years is a fad... Also why can't you accept that the Wii outsold hard the ps3 and 360? People just cant go on that Nintendo was the winner of last gen... Back in some years ago, comparing ps2 to ps3 shows that ps3 was a fad too... No one wrote bash articles/comments calling it a fad as long I rembember....

 

LoL where the hell did i deny the fact it out sold them ?? yahh no where.  Ninty won the sales last gen and..... 

But it was a fad waggle was a fad, waggles irrelevance in gaming now shows waggle was a fad.  There is no set time for a fad, some last short other plod along for a few years as the wii did but they all become irrelevent as wii and waggle has. soe fads last a year liek waring stupid clothing whiel huge ricer wings on cars lasted nearly a decade.

How are PS2 to PS3 sales anywhere similar with wii and wiiu ???  Wiiu will be luckly to sale 20m, selling one fifth of the wii compared to Ps3 selling + half of PS2.  I guess you dont see a difference there ? so this is almost pointless, but stop being foolish making baseless analogies that make no sense just to defend a fad.  Wii sold great but it sold due to it being a fad. 

 


so losing 70M PS2 users in the transition to PS3 is not similar to losing 80M customers from Wii to WiiU?

sory dude youre the only fool here



Corvo on 27 January 2014
BeElite said:
Corvo said:
BeElite said:
Dudes right on everything. People don't want the wiiu, ninty did do a shit job marketing it. Its not the job of retailers to market products. Shit bestbuy had $220 and $250 wiiu bundles here, that's how desperate they were to rid them self's of stock. Wii was a fad and its generally accepted as such, get over it accept it its reality. Why cant people just accept that ? what's so wrong with accepting the truth of the product or stating it, mainstream picked it up like one sold like it and became irrelevant as one.

 

From VGC data, Wii still selling and sold extremally well on 5 years. Fad is ''a thing that becomes very popular in a short amount of time, and then is forgotten at about the same speed.'' I dont think 5 years is a fad... Also why can't you accept that the Wii outsold hard the ps3 and 360? People just cant go on that Nintendo was the winner of last gen... Back in some years ago, comparing ps2 to ps3 shows that ps3 was a fad too... No one wrote bash articles/comments calling it a fad as long I rembember....

 

LoL where the hell did i deny the fact it out sold them ?? yahh no where.  Ninty won the sales last gen and..... 

But it was a fad waggle was a fad, waggles irrelevance in gaming now shows waggle was a fad.  There is no set time for a fad, some last short other plod along for a few years as the wii did but they all become irrelevent as wii and waggle has. soe fads last a year liek waring stupid clothing whiel huge ricer wings on cars lasted nearly a decade.

How are PS2 to PS3 sales anywhere similar with wii and wiiu ???  Wiiu will be luckly to sale 20m, selling one fifth of the wii compared to Ps3 selling + half of PS2.  I guess you dont see a difference there ? so this is almost pointless, but stop being foolish making baseless analogies that make no sense just to defend a fad.  Wii sold great but it sold due to it being a fad. 

 


''baseless analogies'', ok blind fanboy , let me draw to you, looks like you don't have ability of interpretation. Ps2 sold 155m units WW, ps3 sold 80.9m units WW, I can't see it reaching 90m...  This breaks your '' argument'' of '' PS2 and PS3 sales arent similar to wii and wii U''. What WiiU sales have to do with this point? Sorry to ruin your fanboy dream again but Wii U HAS ( not saying it will) potential to even reach 64 numbers. Fad is a term that you and other love to use to something that did better than your favourite console. Can't just accept and have to make excuses to justify the great sales... I think YOU are the one that don't see the difference here.



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supernihilist on 27 January 2014
KylieDog said:
supernihilist said:

Fact is PS2 to PS3 drop is similar in userbase to Wii  to WiiU


90m down from 150m is around 2 thirds.   The WiiU is not seling 60m consoles which you are suggesting.


Anyway, everything in OP is true.  Butthurt by some people not going to change this and nor is bringing up the Vita or any other console.


PS2 to PS3 70M users lost

Wii to WiiU 80M users lost (suposing WiiU only sell 25M which is just an assumption)

Do i have to give you the dictionary definition of similar dude....dont let the bias blind you.



BeElite on 27 January 2014
Corvo said:
BeElite said:
Corvo said:
BeElite said:
Dudes right on everything. People don't want the wiiu, ninty did do a shit job marketing it. Its not the job of retailers to market products. Shit bestbuy had $220 and $250 wiiu bundles here, that's how desperate they were to rid them self's of stock. Wii was a fad and its generally accepted as such, get over it accept it its reality. Why cant people just accept that ? what's so wrong with accepting the truth of the product or stating it, mainstream picked it up like one sold like it and became irrelevant as one.

 

From VGC data, Wii still selling and sold extremally well on 5 years. Fad is ''a thing that becomes very popular in a short amount of time, and then is forgotten at about the same speed.'' I dont think 5 years is a fad... Also why can't you accept that the Wii outsold hard the ps3 and 360? People just cant go on that Nintendo was the winner of last gen... Back in some years ago, comparing ps2 to ps3 shows that ps3 was a fad too... No one wrote bash articles/comments calling it a fad as long I rembember....

 

LoL where the hell did i deny the fact it out sold them ?? yahh no where.  Ninty won the sales last gen and..... 

But it was a fad waggle was a fad, waggles irrelevance in gaming now shows waggle was a fad.  There is no set time for a fad, some last short other plod along for a few years as the wii did but they all become irrelevent as wii and waggle has. soe fads last a year liek waring stupid clothing whiel huge ricer wings on cars lasted nearly a decade.

How are PS2 to PS3 sales anywhere similar with wii and wiiu ???  Wiiu will be luckly to sale 20m, selling one fifth of the wii compared to Ps3 selling + half of PS2.  I guess you dont see a difference there ? so this is almost pointless, but stop being foolish making baseless analogies that make no sense just to defend a fad.  Wii sold great but it sold due to it being a fad. 

 


''baseless analogies'', ok blind fanboy , let me draw to you, looks like you don't have ability of interpretation. Ps2 sold 155m units WW, ps3 sold 80.9m units WW, I can't see it reaching 90m...  This breaks your '' argument'' of '' PS2 and PS3 sales arent similar to wii and wii U''. What WiiU sales have to do with this point? Sorry to ruin your fanboy dream again but Wii U HAS ( not saying it will) potential to even reach 64 numbers. Fad is a term that you and other love to use to something that did better than your favourite console. Can't just accept and have to make excuses to justify the great sales... I think YOU are the one that don't see the difference here.


Its not a excuse, its a explenation.



Corvo on 27 January 2014
BeElite said:


Its not a excuse, its a explenation.


Still, you couldn't give me a proper anwer. Yes it is an excuse, the bias is strong with you...



Most antecipated games: Mario Kart 8 and Warlords of Draenor.

BeElite on 27 January 2014
supernihilist said:
BeElite said:
Corvo said:
BeElite said:
Dudes right on everything. People don't want the wiiu, ninty did do a shit job marketing it. Its not the job of retailers to market products. Shit bestbuy had $220 and $250 wiiu bundles here, that's how desperate they were to rid them self's of stock. Wii was a fad and its generally accepted as such, get over it accept it its reality. Why cant people just accept that ? what's so wrong with accepting the truth of the product or stating it, mainstream picked it up like one sold like it and became irrelevant as one.

 

From VGC data, Wii still selling and sold extremally well on 5 years. Fad is ''a thing that becomes very popular in a short amount of time, and then is forgotten at about the same speed.'' I dont think 5 years is a fad... Also why can't you accept that the Wii outsold hard the ps3 and 360? People just cant go on that Nintendo was the winner of last gen... Back in some years ago, comparing ps2 to ps3 shows that ps3 was a fad too... No one wrote bash articles/comments calling it a fad as long I rembember....

 

LoL where the hell did i deny the fact it out sold them ?? yahh no where.  Ninty won the sales last gen and..... 

But it was a fad waggle was a fad, waggles irrelevance in gaming now shows waggle was a fad.  There is no set time for a fad, some last short other plod along for a few years as the wii did but they all become irrelevent as wii and waggle has. soe fads last a year liek waring stupid clothing whiel huge ricer wings on cars lasted nearly a decade.

How are PS2 to PS3 sales anywhere similar with wii and wiiu ???  Wiiu will be luckly to sale 20m, selling one fifth of the wii compared to Ps3 selling + half of PS2.  I guess you dont see a difference there ? so this is almost pointless, but stop being foolish making baseless analogies that make no sense just to defend a fad.  Wii sold great but it sold due to it being a fad. 

 


so losing 70M PS2 users in the transition to PS3 is not similar to losing 80M customers from Wii to WiiU?

sory dude youre the only fool here

Wiiu is looking to lose 80% of the wii user base.  You are trying depertaly to make 1/5th the same as half.. 



Mummelmann on 27 January 2014
supernihilist said:
KylieDog said:
supernihilist said:

Fact is PS2 to PS3 drop is similar in userbase to Wii  to WiiU


90m down from 150m is around 2 thirds.   The WiiU is not seling 60m consoles which you are suggesting.


Anyway, everything in OP is true.  Butthurt by some people not going to change this and nor is bringing up the Vita or any other console.


PS2 to PS3 70M users lost

Wii to WiiU 80M users lost (suposing WiiU only sell 25M which is just an assumption)

Do i have to give you the dictionary definition of similar dude....dont let the bias blind you.


25% is not similar to 60-65% other than both being numbers. You're being absolutely ridiculous.

PS3 will end up around 90 million lifetime versus PS2's 155-ish million while the Wii U is headed for 25 million territory compared to 103-105 million, this is like saying that a man that is 2'6" tall is of similar height as a guy who is 6'.