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Forums - Nintendo - Undertracked! NPD Shows Pokemon XY Has Sold Over 3mil! [X=1.63mil / Y=1.54mil]

tbone51 on 25 January 2014
Kresnik said:
"These figures are for the U.S., and they include both physical and digital sales on Nintendo’s eShop online store."

Problem solved.


Yes, we know is both but digital sales are nowhere near close  to 320k in the US.



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tbone51 on 25 January 2014
pezus said:
tbone51 said:
pezus said:
How do you know how much it has sold digitally? Tbh, 10% from digital doesn't sound too off to me.


Nowhere near 10%.

Why? You were one of the advocates for high digital sales before but now you think they're low?


I have never once stated this^ If your talking about LoZ then yes and i was right



Kresnik on 25 January 2014
tbone51 said:
Kresnik said:
"These figures are for the U.S., and they include both physical and digital sales on Nintendo’s eShop online store."

Problem solved.


Yes, we know is both but digital sales are nowhere near close  to 320k in the US.


Your own digital figures in the OP are 70k + 80k = 150k.

3.17m - 150k = 3.02m (physical sales according to your link).

3.02m - 2.85m = 170k (difference between NPD & VGC numbers)

2.85 ÷ 10 = 285k.

VGC aims numbers to be within 10% accuracy I believe, and these numbers are within 10% accuracy.

I understand where you're coming from.  I used to campaign for the numbers to be changed all the time but as long as they're within the 10% band, I don't think ioi is fussed about changing them.

If you want something more meaty to try and get fixed, why not make some threads about the 2012 NPD numbers?  Kingdom Hearts 3D is 100-200k overtracked and Angry Birds is 200-300k undertracked.  They're well outside the margins of error but 6 months of bringing it up at every opportunity I had got nothing changed :P



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tbone51 on 25 January 2014
pezus said:
tbone51 said:
pezus said:
tbone51 said:
pezus said:
How do you know how much it has sold digitally? Tbh, 10% from digital doesn't sound too off to me.


Nowhere near 10%.

Why? You were one of the advocates for high digital sales before but now you think they're low?


I have never once stated this^ If your talking about LoZ then yes and i was right

What, you're always talking about digital sales being high. You've made several threads in the past for different games.

I still would like to hear why you don't think 320k digital sounds legit.

No Problem (all this = US only)

Pokemon X  and Y are seperate games on ranking on the eShop. Neither of them has surpassed FE Awakening. FE Awakening has been confirmed back in Sept to have around 80-90k in digital sales. It hasnt sold much more than that but hey lets put it to a total of 100k. As of right now both pokemon XY are below FE on the eShop meaning XY<200k.

That right there by itself puts it undertracked by 120k+. 

Now Pokemon X is much much higher than Pokemon Y on the charts . Pokemon Y hasnt surpasse LM2 which digital sales are currently less than Gunman Clive's.  

Gunman Clive (3DS eShop) Sold between 170k-190k WW http://www.cubed3.com/news/20198/1/.html#.UuQczBX8fQ8

Not half of those sales come from US so  it sold less than 85k. (Keep in mind that it outsold LM2/NSMB2 and those outsold pokemon Y)

Pokemon X Just surpassed Gunman Clive Sales about a week or 2 ago so X Are less than that as well as these numbers are talking about 2013!!!

 

So Pokemon XY have easily sold less than 170k. My guess between 120k-150k is most realistic but i dont think it'll matter to you???



tbone51 on 25 January 2014
Kresnik said:
tbone51 said:
Kresnik said:
"These figures are for the U.S., and they include both physical and digital sales on Nintendo’s eShop online store."

Problem solved.


Yes, we know is both but digital sales are nowhere near close  to 320k in the US.


Your own digital figures in the OP are 70k + 80k = 150k.

3.17m - 150k = 3.02m (physical sales according to your link).

3.02m - 2.85m = 170k (difference between NPD & VGC numbers)

2.85 ÷ 10 = 285k.

VGC aims numbers to be within 10% accuracy I believe, and these numbers are within 10% accuracy.

I understand where you're coming from.  I used to campaign for the numbers to be changed all the time but as long as they're within the 10% band, I don't think ioi is fussed about changing them.

If you want something more meaty to try and get fixed, why not make some threads about the 2012 NPD numbers?  Kingdom Hearts 3D is 100-200k overtracked and Angry Birds is 200-300k undertracked.  They're well outside the margins of error but 6 months of bringing it up at every opportunity I had got nothing changed :P

Ok i got ya, in this case it is accurate. I just pointing out that its not overtracked as many expected even though it was in both Oct+Nov lol!

2.85mil is a huge difference in the 3.17mil. But even if you dont count digital which is fair we should have it at at least 3mil!!!

No big deal compare to others however! Pokemon might just be close to 10mil  or even surpassed it by now? Is it undertracked in Europe? (imasking cuz im not sure)



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Farsala on 25 January 2014

Seems pretty accurate on VGC to me, should advocate for things that are more off though. Like 360 as a whole.



Roar_Of_War on 25 January 2014

On a side note, according to eShop charts, ALBW is 2nd place. Any way to gauge how much it's sold digitally?



tbone51 on 25 January 2014
Roar_Of_War said:

On a side note, according to eShop charts, ALBW is 2nd place. Any way to gauge how much it's sold digitally?


I kno!All the confirmation we got is that it sold 125k+ and that was just in Nov o.O (it was ranked about 18th-20th at that time)

That bundle !!!

Zelda: A Link Between Worlds at 280,000 units (405,000 with the Zelda 3DS XL bundle)

Source http://nintendoeverything.com/november-2013-npd-nintendos-response/