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Sony only entered the video game market because Nintendo screwed them over. And Microsoft only entered to complete with Sony. The market would be pretty much nonexistent.



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Leadified said:
Well Sony wouldn't join because the SNES CD thing never happened and then MS wouldn't join because the PS1 would have not happened. So we would be forever ruled by Sega, Atari and Coleco.


Not very likely. It's not a guarntee, but the home video game market in the US was all but DEAD in NA in 1983. Nintendo took a huge risk that no-one, especially not Sega, was willing to take in 1984 with a NY test-market release of the NES. They spent a ton of money to redesign the thing, to develop R.O.B., and to market it as a "toy", NOT a video game console. It worked, and they mass-released NES in 1985. Without that, Atari wouldn't have made a comeback, Coleco and all the other "Visions" would have stayed dead (which they basically did anyway, in point of fact), and companies like NEC and Sega and SNK surely wouldn't have bothered trying to put out game consoles in such a dead market. Meaning that while not guaranteed, it's entirely likely that Sega never would have released the Master System, let alone the Megadrive/Genesis in NA.

We would have still had arcades (in fact they'd likely still be thriving to this day), and PC games would have still grown. But there is a very strong argument to be made that Nintendo did in fact basically "save" the NA (or western for that matter) games market with the NES' success. Not a single one of us might have played much of anything in home gaming beyond the by-then-defunt Atari 2600, for all we know. And yes, Sony and MS certainly would not have bothered ever getting into the console race, that much is certain. They only tried because of Nintendo and Sega's success.



Regardless, if Nintendo had never brought the NES to NA, the world of gaming would be a very dark place indeed, if you ask me.



Fusioncode said:
Sony only entered the video game market because Nintendo screwed them over. And Microsoft only entered to complete with Sony. The market would be pretty much nonexistent.


While partly true, there is verifiable evidence that Sony also attempted to get into bed with Sega after the Nintendo deal fell through, and that Sega ALSO pulled out on them, because they trusted their own experience to make their own CD console. THAT is when Sony decided to make the Playstation. Nintendo certainly had a hand in that, but the stories have been rather overstated, and Nintendo's part overplayed.



This reminds me of a series of videos on YouTube called "What if Nintendo was a failure?".



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Nintendo entered to resurrect gaming after the video game crash of 83.
Sega entered to compete and gain market share from Nintendo.
Sony entered when Nintendo didn't accept the terms in their partnership (PS1).
Microsoft entered because Sony was gaining popularity.



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DevilRising said:
Fusioncode said:
Sony only entered the video game market because Nintendo screwed them over. And Microsoft only entered to complete with Sony. The market would be pretty much nonexistent.


While partly true, there is verifiable evidence that Sony also attempted to get into bed with Sega after the Nintendo deal fell through, and that Sega ALSO pulled out on them, because they trusted their own experience to make their own CD console. THAT is when Sony decided to make the Playstation. Nintendo certainly had a hand in that, but the stories have been rather overstated, and Nintendo's part overplayed.

Sony wouldn't be in the game business period, Ken Kutaragi wouldn't have anything to develop a sound chip for if no SNES existed, he'd likely be working on Walkmans or something and without him there's no one to urge Sony's president to go full blown in to the game business. 

Sure perhaps Sony would've been a parts supplier for game consoles, like NEC has been, but not much more than that. Sony's upper management did not want to get into the console business. It was only after they got embarrassed by Nintendo that they made the decision to go into the console biz. 



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Miyamoto wouldn't be with Nintendo but he'd still be around. Not like he can't exist without Nintendo. Other franchises that grew popular on the NES would instead grow popular on the Sega Master System and other consoles.

Sony might still actually get in the game because if Nintendo wasn't there, then Sega would have been the go to console. When the Playstation came out, because of Sega instead of Nintendo, Sega would actually have good third party support prior, because if you remember, it was Nintendo that got third party developers to sign contracts for a certain amount of years in order to develop for their console, and when the contract was over, they made threats that if the third party developed for another company then they wouldn't ever be able to release on a Nintendo console again. The reason behind third party developers stopped support Nintendo when the N64 launched.

So here's how I think it would be in the 32bit era. It'd probably be a split with the big three still, but instead of it being Nintendo, Sony, and Sega, it'd instead be Sega, Sony, and Hudson. Because Sega would have been a pretty healthy company, even if they did all the stupid crap they did, the Dreamcast wouldn't have killed them, even if it failed as bad as it did, With no Nintendo though and Sega never making third parties angry, Sega's gaming division would probably have been the biggest of the big three. They might have been the ones to get more exclusives than Sony, etc.

And who knows, with Sega releasing the Sega CD earlier, it might have been Sony who went to Sega and asked them about building a Sony Sega console. So in the 32bit gen it might have been Sony/Sega Playstation.

Different console publishers would have survived, but it'd probably be no different right now.  Replace Nintendo with Sega and Nintendo exclusives with whatever Sega exclusives would be out.  No Mario more than likely means no Sonic, but hey.  I don't mind one less bad game series.  Sonic is overrated.



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artur-fernand said:
It's pretty obvious that video games would have died in the 83 crash. Perhaps we would have PC gaming, but it would be FAR from what we have today.

This is probably the closest thing to what would've happened. 

Good job!