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Aerys on 13 January 2014
curl-6 said:
Aerys said:

Wrong again, story driven experience, voices acting, cinematic and graphics doesnt prevent games to have also good gameplay and doesnt prevent to make other kind of games on the other side, because this is what sony does, there is no opposition here, you're totally dishonest if you say Beyond/uncharted/Gow represent everything sony does because the fact is sony exclusive games bring a lot more variety, so they are in no way like microsoft games and this is their advantage compared to Nintendo games.

Those games aren't all Sony makes, I never said so, but they are definitely their primary focus.

Microsoft bring variety too. They have Fable, Kinect, Forza, etc as well as Halo.

Heck, even their consoles, PS3 and 360, are incredibly alike in everything from processing power to controllers.


The fact is their exclusives library is focused on the variety.


Microsoft is very far to bring as much variety, and  sony created much more new ips when the traditionnal triplet fable/halo/Forza is not really something new.

 

Console identity is obviously representend by exclusive games, simple to understand, so no, they are nowhere the same thing.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

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curl-6 on 13 January 2014
Aerys said:
curl-6 said:
Aerys said:

Wrong again, story driven experience, voices acting, cinematic and graphics doesnt prevent games to have also good gameplay and doesnt prevent to make other kind of games on the other side, because this is what sony does, there is no opposition here, you're totally dishonest if you say Beyond/uncharted/Gow represent everything sony does because the fact is sony exclusive games bring a lot more variety, so they are in no way like microsoft games and this is their advantage compared to Nintendo games.

Those games aren't all Sony makes, I never said so, but they are definitely their primary focus.

Microsoft bring variety too. They have Fable, Kinect, Forza, etc as well as Halo.

Heck, even their consoles, PS3 and 360, are incredibly alike in everything from processing power to controllers.


The fact is their exclusives library is focused on the variety.


Microsoft is very far to bring as much variety, and  sony created much more new ips when the traditionnal triplet fable/halo/Forza is not really something new.

 

Console identity is obviously representend by exclusive games, simple to understand, so no, they are nowhere the same thing.

Sony invest in and promote the same kind of games, target pretty much the same gamers, and approach the medium with more or less than same philosophy, as MS. Nintendo does things very differently to both of them, they are the odd one out.

And the vast majority of the popular games on both systems are multiplatform; COD, AC, GTA, etc. Their libraries are very, very similar, as well as controllers, hardware power, etc.



Aerys on 13 January 2014

That doesnt change what i said, "The fact is their exclusives library is focused on the variety."

You can talk about philosophy or other things we dont care because that doesnt impact this previous fact but the only thing important here to represent the console identity  is the exclusive games library,this is a game console after all no? ( this is what every nintendo fan would say in fact )


Saying MS consoles are the same thing than Sony consoles just because they share multiplats is untrue and unclever like i explained, it's like if i said that Nintendo consoles are the same than MS/Sony consoles with much less because of the lack of multiplats.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Mythmaker1 on 13 January 2014

Michael-5 said:

1. Actualy it's Atari, but like MikeRox said, Nintendo made the D-pad, and I'd like to add that after the NES/SNES everyone copied Nintendo with the Start/Select buttons, and the D-Pad + 4 button + Shoulder button configuration.

2. My point was motion play. A light gun, nor a driving wheel is motion play, they are just controllers.

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Still I listed nearly a dozen innovations by Nintendo, where Sony & MS have 1 or 0. Just proved to BeElite that Nintendo has always been a very innovative company.

Plus the few times Nintendo didn't invent the tech, Nintendo did make it popular. After the Wii, MS made Kinect and now packs it with all XBO's.

Yikes.

I'll see myself out. It's getting remarkably petty and heavy-handed in here.



I believe in honesty, civility, generosity, practicality, and impartiality.

curl-6 on 13 January 2014
Aerys said:

That doesnt change what i said, "The fact is their exclusives library is focused on the variety."

You can talk about philosophy or other things we dont care because that doesnt impact this previous fact but the only thing important here to represent the console identity  is the exclusive games library,this is a game console after all no? ( this is what every nintendo fan would say in fact )


Saying MS consoles are the same thing than Sony consoles just because they share multiplats is untrue and unclever like i explained, it's like if i said that Nintendo consoles are the same than MS/Sony consoles with much less because of the lack of multiplats.

Sony and Microsoft both target primarily the dudebro crowd. Because they both go for this same audience, their approach to gaming is virtually the same.

Nintendo targets primarily the family audience and their longtime fans. Their approach is different.



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Rogerioandrade on 13 January 2014

yeah.... the company with 85 % of the handheld market is not important.....

.... fanboy talk, c´mon. This is like a plague in these forums.



Aerys on 13 January 2014
curl-6 said:
Aerys said:

That doesnt change what i said, "The fact is their exclusives library is focused on the variety."

You can talk about philosophy or other things we dont care because that doesnt impact this previous fact but the only thing important here to represent the console identity  is the exclusive games library,this is a game console after all no? ( this is what every nintendo fan would say in fact )


Saying MS consoles are the same thing than Sony consoles just because they share multiplats is untrue and unclever like i explained, it's like if i said that Nintendo consoles are the same than MS/Sony consoles with much less because of the lack of multiplats.

Sony and Microsoft both target primarily the dudebro crowd. Because they both go for this same audience, their approach to gaming is virtually the same.

Nintendo targets primarily the family audience and their longtime fans. Their approach is different.


Like i said and repeated again and again, such things dont matter when you judge a game console , you only talk about games, so when it comes to games, the only important subject,  ( again) , you cant say Microsoft is the same than Sony , like you cant say Nintendo brings more to gaming than Sony.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

curl-6 on 13 January 2014
Aerys said:
curl-6 said:
Aerys said:

That doesnt change what i said, "The fact is their exclusives library is focused on the variety."

You can talk about philosophy or other things we dont care because that doesnt impact this previous fact but the only thing important here to represent the console identity  is the exclusive games library,this is a game console after all no? ( this is what every nintendo fan would say in fact )


Saying MS consoles are the same thing than Sony consoles just because they share multiplats is untrue and unclever like i explained, it's like if i said that Nintendo consoles are the same than MS/Sony consoles with much less because of the lack of multiplats.

Sony and Microsoft both target primarily the dudebro crowd. Because they both go for this same audience, their approach to gaming is virtually the same.

Nintendo targets primarily the family audience and their longtime fans. Their approach is different.


Like i said and repeated again and again, such things dont matter when you judge a game console , you only talk about games, so when it comes to games, the only important subject,  ( again) , you cant say Microsoft is the same than Sony , like you cant say Nintendo brings more to gaming than Sony.

Nintendo brings more to gaming than Sony.



Aerys on 13 January 2014
curl-6 said:
Aerys said:
curl-6 said:
Aerys said:

That doesnt change what i said, "The fact is their exclusives library is focused on the variety."

You can talk about philosophy or other things we dont care because that doesnt impact this previous fact but the only thing important here to represent the console identity  is the exclusive games library,this is a game console after all no? ( this is what every nintendo fan would say in fact )


Saying MS consoles are the same thing than Sony consoles just because they share multiplats is untrue and unclever like i explained, it's like if i said that Nintendo consoles are the same than MS/Sony consoles with much less because of the lack of multiplats.

Sony and Microsoft both target primarily the dudebro crowd. Because they both go for this same audience, their approach to gaming is virtually the same.

Nintendo targets primarily the family audience and their longtime fans. Their approach is different.


Like i said and repeated again and again, such things dont matter when you judge a game console , you only talk about games, so when it comes to games, the only important subject,  ( again) , you cant say Microsoft is the same than Sony , like you cant say from an objective pov that Nintendo brings more to gaming than Sony.

Nintendo brings more to gaming than Sony IMO

Fixed.
There we are, this is exactly the reason why he created this thread.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

curl-6 on 13 January 2014
Aerys said:
curl-6 said:
Aerys said:

Like i said and repeated again and again, such things dont matter when you judge a game console , you only talk about games, so when it comes to games, the only important subject,  ( again) , you cant say Microsoft is the same than Sony , like you cant say from an objective pov that Nintendo brings more to gaming than Sony.

Nintendo brings more to gaming than Sony IMO

Fixed.
There we are, this is exactly the reason why he created this thread.

There is no objective point of view when it comes to the quality of games.