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BeElite on 06 January 2014
Aerys said:
jlmurph2 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
jlmurph2 said:
DealWithIt617 said:

Will it boost sales yes but Sony has more exclusives coming out this year and going forward. This is assuming titanfall is even good. I know it is early but Sony look's like there going to dominate this gen.

Not sure if Titanfall can top all these games, Drive club,Infamous, The order 1886, Planet side 2, Mlb the show 14,  Deep Down and what ever Ps+ games they give out and the f2p games coming.    Ps4 just has more to offer and at a better price.

 

 


PS4 doesn't have more exclusives though. Since you can name PC/console exclusive games so can I: Titanfall, Project Spark, Quantum Break, KS: Rivals, Sunset Overdrive, Black Tusk's game, Fable Legends, Halo. Xbox 2014 is looking strong


Sony's exclusives are more successful franchises  enmasse from first and second party and on a level of ratings. Sony in general has more critically acclaimed titles than Microsoft by a much larger margin than you think. Microsoft had more exclusives but most of those were third party and MS paid to keep most of the third parties to keep away from Sony at launch from 2005-2009 period. Bioshock itself took a year to come out which hurt its community on the Playstation. Same thing happened with Mass Effect  and Mass Effect 2 until EA bought Bioware and went multiplat. Depending on third parties exclusives is Microsofts saving grace. This generation more than the last there will be less third party exclusives between them. Lets see how Microsoft fares then. 

Sony has four major developers under their first party that are on IGN's top 50 developers list. Microsoft had one which is completely responsible for the success of the Xbox and they are now exclusive to Activision for ten years.

Sony's learned from their mistakes with PS3 and MS learned from theirs on the 360. Its obvious that they're focusing on the quality exclusive games this go around with all the new IPs coming. While yes both have their respective critically acclaimed franchises/developers, I see MS taking more chances with the X1 while the only new IPs I see for PS4 is The Order and Driveclub


Wrong again .

 

What are the new IPs announced or released made by microsoft  for X1 ? None.

 

New IPs by Sony for PS4 : Knack, Driveclub, The Order 1886 ( this  whithout counting digital games)

wehh wehh


Why the hell should i care if MS makes it or payes someone to do it ? were Gears and Mass lesser cause MS did not make em.  Did it matter that Final Fantasy was Square made and not sony.



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alabtrosMyster on 06 January 2014

Isn't the xb1 supposed to be above the PS4 in america anyway? Now this is put into question? I would say that the simple fact that this discussion is happening, for only 1 country as well, is very bad in and of itself.

I can't wait for December NPD numbers to see how these xb1 sitting on store shelves affected the final result!



sales2099 on 06 January 2014
deskpro2k3 said:
The superior version of Titanfall will most likely be on PC.

In other words, the PS4 will remain turned off as you play. That is MS's plan.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Smashed on 06 January 2014

Nope. Doubt it.
It's not a Xbox One exclusive, and the 360 is nearly selling just as many units as the Xbox One.

There is one reason why Xbox One is currently outselling PS4 in NA, supply issues. You can find a One nearly anywhere you go, from what I've seen and heard. PS4's are no where to be found.

Not to mention the superior version will be on the PC.



S.T.A.G.E. on 06 January 2014
jlmurph2 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
jlmurph2 said:
DealWithIt617 said:

Will it boost sales yes but Sony has more exclusives coming out this year and going forward. This is assuming titanfall is even good. I know it is early but Sony look's like there going to dominate this gen.

Not sure if Titanfall can top all these games, Drive club,Infamous, The order 1886, Planet side 2, Mlb the show 14,  Deep Down and what ever Ps+ games they give out and the f2p games coming.    Ps4 just has more to offer and at a better price.

 

 


PS4 doesn't have more exclusives though. Since you can name PC/console exclusive games so can I: Titanfall, Project Spark, Quantum Break, KS: Rivals, Sunset Overdrive, Black Tusk's game, Fable Legends, Halo. Xbox 2014 is looking strong


Sony's exclusives are more successful franchises  enmasse from first and second party and on a level of ratings. Sony in general has more critically acclaimed titles than Microsoft by a much larger margin than you think. Microsoft had more exclusives but most of those were third party and MS paid to keep most of the third parties to keep away from Sony at launch from 2005-2009 period. Bioshock itself took a year to come out which hurt its community on the Playstation. Same thing happened with Mass Effect  and Mass Effect 2 until EA bought Bioware and went multiplat. Depending on third parties exclusives is Microsofts saving grace. This generation more than the last there will be less third party exclusives between them. Lets see how Microsoft fares then. 

Sony has four major developers under their first party that are on IGN's top 50 developers list. Microsoft had one which is completely responsible for the success of the Xbox and they are now exclusive to Activision for ten years.

Sony's learned from their mistakes with PS3 and MS learned from theirs on the 360. Its obvious that they're focusing on the quality exclusive games this go around with all the new IPs coming. While yes both have their respective critically acclaimed franchises/developers, I see MS taking more chances with the X1 while the only new IPs I see for PS4 is The Order and Driveclub


Microsoft is doing the EXACT same thing they did with the 360. They are Keeping specific key games from Sony but the problem is the exclusivity is drying up, especially since Sony is launching really close to them. Microsofts first party will need to expand and not just by making them, but by virtue of creativity of reception that they are accepted by the masses. Microsoft first party is truly the problem. They aren't good at it. This is why they pay for so many games. Sony's new IP's start expandinginto matured titles  around the second and third year mark of the consoles life. The only studio I know that has a new Shooter or whatever is Black Tusk. Thats the only studio I am expecting anything from. Everyone else will most likely be an outside company.



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selnor1983 on 06 January 2014

imo opinion it will happen before that. Titanfall and Halo 5 will just squish the PS4 in US. It will show Sony why Killzone just isnt even in the same street let alone Country. Halo 5 has no release date and no gameplay. And has 50k preorders already.



torok on 06 January 2014
Kyuu said:

I'm pretty sure Microsoft has its alternate plans.

Third party developers are probably observing how well Xbox ONE is selling in its current state before they decide to exploit Kinect. There hasn't been any major Kinect project in the works so far so I don't think it'll stop Microsoft from changing their policy once more if it is necessary.


I'm pretty sure they wanted a bundled Kinect since the original on 360. Their last policy change was before the launch, now things are more difficult. Probably there are some games in development for Kinect right now (as we probably have a lot of unannounced games waiting to see the day light).



Bet with jetforcejiminy: PS4 will pass the Wii lifetime numbers.

BeElite on 06 January 2014
selnor1983 said:
imo opinion it will happen before that. Titanfall and Halo 5 will just squish the PS4 in US. It will show Sony why Killzone just isnt even in the same street let alone Country. Halo 5 has no release date and no gameplay. And has 50k preorders already.


Man i hope you work for MS casue you got some serious delusions.  Only explananble if your salary depands on them.  

Price matters heavly in the US, extra 100 and even more if you want batteries that recharge is a big deal to a huge chunk of the population.  MS better get the price sorted out first.



selnor1983 on 06 January 2014
BeElite said:
selnor1983 said:
imo opinion it will happen before that. Titanfall and Halo 5 will just squish the PS4 in US. It will show Sony why Killzone just isnt even in the same street let alone Country. Halo 5 has no release date and no gameplay. And has 50k preorders already.


Man i hope you work for MS casue you got some serious delusions.  Only explananble if your salary depands on them.  

Price matters heavly in the US, extra 100 and even more if you want batteries that recharge is a big deal to a huge chunk of the population.

Batteries?

Play and charge kits are available the same as 360. 

Xbox One is the best selling Xbox ever with less contries and the highest price tag. Personally I think you underestimate FPS games in the US. Its only my opinion. Ill be either right or wrong.



selnor1983 on 06 January 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
jlmurph2 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
jlmurph2 said:
DealWithIt617 said:

Will it boost sales yes but Sony has more exclusives coming out this year and going forward. This is assuming titanfall is even good. I know it is early but Sony look's like there going to dominate this gen.

Not sure if Titanfall can top all these games, Drive club,Infamous, The order 1886, Planet side 2, Mlb the show 14,  Deep Down and what ever Ps+ games they give out and the f2p games coming.    Ps4 just has more to offer and at a better price.

 

 


PS4 doesn't have more exclusives though. Since you can name PC/console exclusive games so can I: Titanfall, Project Spark, Quantum Break, KS: Rivals, Sunset Overdrive, Black Tusk's game, Fable Legends, Halo. Xbox 2014 is looking strong


Sony's exclusives are more successful franchises  enmasse from first and second party and on a level of ratings. Sony in general has more critically acclaimed titles than Microsoft by a much larger margin than you think. Microsoft had more exclusives but most of those were third party and MS paid to keep most of the third parties to keep away from Sony at launch from 2005-2009 period. Bioshock itself took a year to come out which hurt its community on the Playstation. Same thing happened with Mass Effect  and Mass Effect 2 until EA bought Bioware and went multiplat. Depending on third parties exclusives is Microsofts saving grace. This generation more than the last there will be less third party exclusives between them. Lets see how Microsoft fares then. 

Sony has four major developers under their first party that are on IGN's top 50 developers list. Microsoft had one which is completely responsible for the success of the Xbox and they are now exclusive to Activision for ten years.

Sony's learned from their mistakes with PS3 and MS learned from theirs on the 360. Its obvious that they're focusing on the quality exclusive games this go around with all the new IPs coming. While yes both have their respective critically acclaimed franchises/developers, I see MS taking more chances with the X1 while the only new IPs I see for PS4 is The Order and Driveclub


Microsoft is doing the EXACT same thing they did with the 360. They are Keeping specific key games from Sony but the problem is the exclusivity is drying up, especially since Sony is launching really close to them. Microsofts first party will need to expand and not just by making them, but by virtue of creativity of reception that they are accepted by the masses. Microsoft first party is truly the problem. They aren't good at it. This is why they pay for so many games. Sony's new IP's start expandinginto matured titles  around the second and third year mark of the consoles life. The only studio I know that has a new Shooter or whatever is Black Tusk. Thats the only studio I am expecting anything from. Everyone else will most likely be an outside company.


I think Microsoft knows this. Whic is why they spent the last 4 years making new First party studios. Theres studios we haent heard from yet. Microsoft now have alot of First party studios.

Here is the list of TEN Microsoft's first-party studios working on untitled projects:

  • Connected Experiences – Untitled Project – Design Large scale multiplayer title and help other first party studios
  • Kids and Lifestyle Entertainment – Next generation fitness project - Original IP
  • Platform Next Studios – Next generation title
  • Playful Learning – Next generation family project
  • Lionhead Studios – Fable series, Black & White series, Unannounced MMO-like New IP - (2 team studio - unannounced next generation title)
  • Lift London – Multiple AAA Cloud Based gaming projects (4+)
  • Rare Ltd. – Banjo-Kazooie series, Viva Piñata series, Perfect Dark series, Conker series, Killer Instinct series, Kameo: Elements of Power, Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Jetpac series, Kinect Sports series- (3 team studio - Concurrent development of various titles)
  • Black Tusk Studios – Untitled Stealth Game - (an unannounced next generation title)
  • Microsoft Studios Victoria – Untitled Core Project
  • Microsoft Studios Osaka- Unannounced projects
There are others, but these studios of whic many  are new are confirmed working on titles.