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oniyide on 04 January 2014
episteme said:
oniyide said:
chris_wing said:

I think Mario Kart will get about a 50% attach rate by the end of 2014, a good question is will it drive Wii U sales? I'll play it safe and say 4.5 million copies by the end of 2014.

Smash will get maybe 25-30% attach rate since it's a fighting game & not as accessible as MK, again, will it be a system seller? I'll say around 2.3 million by year end.


im sorry but no. NSMBWiiU has sold a little more than 3 mil. thats with it being bundled and on the market for little more than a year. It is a far more popular franchise than either Smash or Kart. you think MK will do more than a 2d Mario with only 9 months? Explain. 

Your Smash numbers make sense...if one wants to pretend their is no 3DS version, which i gaurantee will take some sales away from the WIi U.

NSMB is far more popular than Mario Kart? MKWii outsold NSMBWii, MK7 outsold NSMB2...

on average yes it is. MKWii is the exception not the norm. 2d marios do better most of the time



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garretslarrity on 04 January 2014

Since we are talking lifetime sales, we could have huge fluctuations depending on how much we think the Wii U will sell, and this early on, we will have huge fluctuations in how much the Wii U will sell. So I think everyone who posts their predictions on this thread should give a hardware prediction that they base their answer on. Mine is 30M.

Kart: 10 million. About the same ratio as the Wii version. Seems reasonable.

Smash: 8 million. Of course the 3DS version will take away some sales, but there are plenty of people who will buy both. The hardcore smashers will not be satisfied with a handheld version.



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bosslug on 04 January 2014
oniyide said:
episteme said:
oniyide said:
chris_wing said:

I think Mario Kart will get about a 50% attach rate by the end of 2014, a good question is will it drive Wii U sales? I'll play it safe and say 4.5 million copies by the end of 2014.

Smash will get maybe 25-30% attach rate since it's a fighting game & not as accessible as MK, again, will it be a system seller? I'll say around 2.3 million by year end.


im sorry but no. NSMBWiiU has sold a little more than 3 mil. thats with it being bundled and on the market for little more than a year. It is a far more popular franchise than either Smash or Kart. you think MK will do more than a 2d Mario with only 9 months? Explain. 

Your Smash numbers make sense...if one wants to pretend their is no 3DS version, which i gaurantee will take some sales away from the WIi U.

NSMB is far more popular than Mario Kart? MKWii outsold NSMBWii, MK7 outsold NSMB2...

on average yes it is. MKWii is the exception not the norm. 2d marios do better most of the time

And what about MK7?



TheLegendaryWolf on 04 January 2014

Mario Kart 8: 2.5 - 4 million by end of 2014.
Super Smash Bros U: minimum of 1 million (really depends on it's release date) by end of 2014.
Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze: 1.5 million by end of 2014.



oniyide on 04 January 2014
bosslug said:
oniyide said:
episteme said:
oniyide said:
chris_wing said:

I think Mario Kart will get about a 50% attach rate by the end of 2014, a good question is will it drive Wii U sales? I'll play it safe and say 4.5 million copies by the end of 2014.

Smash will get maybe 25-30% attach rate since it's a fighting game & not as accessible as MK, again, will it be a system seller? I'll say around 2.3 million by year end.


im sorry but no. NSMBWiiU has sold a little more than 3 mil. thats with it being bundled and on the market for little more than a year. It is a far more popular franchise than either Smash or Kart. you think MK will do more than a 2d Mario with only 9 months? Explain. 

Your Smash numbers make sense...if one wants to pretend their is no 3DS version, which i gaurantee will take some sales away from the WIi U.

NSMB is far more popular than Mario Kart? MKWii outsold NSMBWii, MK7 outsold NSMB2...

on average yes it is. MKWii is the exception not the norm. 2d marios do better most of the time

And what about MK7?

what about it? that game has less sales than the Mario bro games for Wii and DS and other older 2d Marios. It looks to be tracking about par with MK for DS which would reinforce that MKWii is the exception not the rule. Unless you think that MK7 will eventually do MKWii numbers.



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Viltgance on 04 January 2014

I'll be buying smash bros for wii u obviously oppose to 3ds.... I own both just for clarification



zorg1000 on 04 January 2014
oniyide said:
bosslug said:
oniyide said:
episteme said:
oniyide said:
chris_wing said:

I think Mario Kart will get about a 50% attach rate by the end of 2014, a good question is will it drive Wii U sales? I'll play it safe and say 4.5 million copies by the end of 2014.

Smash will get maybe 25-30% attach rate since it's a fighting game & not as accessible as MK, again, will it be a system seller? I'll say around 2.3 million by year end.


im sorry but no. NSMBWiiU has sold a little more than 3 mil. thats with it being bundled and on the market for little more than a year. It is a far more popular franchise than either Smash or Kart. you think MK will do more than a 2d Mario with only 9 months? Explain. 

Your Smash numbers make sense...if one wants to pretend their is no 3DS version, which i gaurantee will take some sales away from the WIi U.

NSMB is far more popular than Mario Kart? MKWii outsold NSMBWii, MK7 outsold NSMB2...

on average yes it is. MKWii is the exception not the norm. 2d marios do better most of the time

And what about MK7?

what about it? that game has less sales than the Mario bro games for Wii and DS and other older 2d Marios. It looks to be tracking about par with MK for DS which would reinforce that MKWii is the exception not the rule. Unless you think that MK7 will eventually do MKWii numbers.


He means MK7 is doing better than NSMB2



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zorg1000 on 04 January 2014
oniyide said:
chris_wing said:

I think Mario Kart will get about a 50% attach rate by the end of 2014, a good question is will it drive Wii U sales? I'll play it safe and say 4.5 million copies by the end of 2014.

Smash will get maybe 25-30% attach rate since it's a fighting game & not as accessible as MK, again, will it be a system seller? I'll say around 2.3 million by year end.


im sorry but no. NSMBWiiU has sold a little more than 3 mil. thats with it being bundled and on the market for little more than a year. It is a far more popular franchise than either Smash or Kart. you think MK will do more than a 2d Mario with only 9 months? Explain. 

Your Smash numbers make sense...if one wants to pretend their is no 3DS version, which i gaurantee will take some sales away from the WIi U.


How is 2D Mario more popular than Mario Kart?

DS: NSMB-29m Mario Kart-23m

Wii: NSMB-27m Mario Kart-34m

3DS: NSMB-7m Mario Kart-9m

Total: NSMB-63m Mario Kart-66m

On 2/3 of those consoles Mario Kart sold better and overall Mario Kart sold better on those 3 consoles, basically the 2 series are virtually tied in terms of popularity if going by releases in the past 10 years.

Also there is nothing wrong with his Smash Bros prediction, 3D World has sold 1.3m on a 5m install base, by the end of 2014 its possible that Wii U is around 10m so 2.3m isnt out of the question.



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oniyide on 04 January 2014
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:
bosslug said:
oniyide said:
episteme said:
oniyide said:
chris_wing said:

I think Mario Kart will get about a 50% attach rate by the end of 2014, a good question is will it drive Wii U sales? I'll play it safe and say 4.5 million copies by the end of 2014.

Smash will get maybe 25-30% attach rate since it's a fighting game & not as accessible as MK, again, will it be a system seller? I'll say around 2.3 million by year end.


im sorry but no. NSMBWiiU has sold a little more than 3 mil. thats with it being bundled and on the market for little more than a year. It is a far more popular franchise than either Smash or Kart. you think MK will do more than a 2d Mario with only 9 months? Explain. 

Your Smash numbers make sense...if one wants to pretend their is no 3DS version, which i gaurantee will take some sales away from the WIi U.

NSMB is far more popular than Mario Kart? MKWii outsold NSMBWii, MK7 outsold NSMB2...

on average yes it is. MKWii is the exception not the norm. 2d marios do better most of the time

And what about MK7?

what about it? that game has less sales than the Mario bro games for Wii and DS and other older 2d Marios. It looks to be tracking about par with MK for DS which would reinforce that MKWii is the exception not the rule. Unless you think that MK7 will eventually do MKWii numbers.


He means MK7 is doing better than NSMB2


it came out a whole year before NSMB2 n its not that far behind...and it was bundled



Raven on 04 January 2014
Fusioncode said:
Mario Kart 8 - 8m

Super Smash Bros U - 7m (3DS version will hurt it)

Why so? I see this mentioned a lot but I don't think it will. The games are connected, but not simply identical ports for each console. Mario Kart DS sales certainly didn't hamper Mario Kart Wii sales after all.



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