First, the WiiU didn't outsell the X1. This was revised by VGC and X1 is now comfortably in front in that week. Also PS4 outsold it by a large margin.

Second, if 2013 and the holiday season say anything then the price advantage currently does nothing with many people even claiming the price for the WiiU is much too high while the PS4 is actually considered relatively cheap for a launch console of that caliber.

Third, I think we can argue about this all day. I may be selling the WiiU and the games a bit short but you certainly oversell them. I wouldn't take the Wii numbers as any indication for the WiiU.

We will see end of spring how far the gap is between PS4 and WiiU and then we can argue again if it is possible for WiiU to close the gap when it's already at a disadvantage. If the one unit I will buy of the WiiU next year doesn't help it then nothing will^^

#1: Fair enough, but my point is still the same regardless. The "newness" factor of the next gen consoles is wearing out. The X1 is already hovering near Wii U numbers (it was only 50K ahead), and while I'll certainly grant that the PS4 for the moment is still comfortably ahead, it certainly isn't going to stay at 600 K a week numbers forever.

#2: I would say the holidays indicate the price cut does quite a lot, although the holidays are certainy shaky ground for determining trends at best. A year old console has competed fairly well with a couple of new console releases, with all of the hype accompanying them. It certainly hasn't been blown out of the water, like all the doomsday threads suggested.

#3: I'm not trying to take Wii sales as a given. Like I said in my post above, I am in no way suggesting that these games will sell a combined 50 million units, or anything similar. The Wii U certainly has a much smaller install base, and a much smaller appeal than the Wii. Hence why I used average sales, and threw out MK8 as an outliar. Trust me, I'm not trying to skew things in Nintendo's favor here.

Considering the Wii U's install base, it'll probably be even smaller than average. But MK and SSB routinely sell so well that even if they didn't perform as well as they have in the past, it'd still be a huge boost, and it'd almost assuredly sell more than a few consoles as well.

All of this is speculation, of course, so yeah, I guess waiting til Spring is probably the best solution at this point.

Like I said, there's just so much to think about. We won't know how long will PS4 keep up these sales. Many people seem to believe it will always sell at these levels, but the truth is that we won't know 'till we see it for ourselves. Maybe it was just the initial hype + holidays, maybe  the console really is that convincing as for people to buy it in masses at anytime of the year, so as I said we won't know for sure until numbers speak. We also don't know what will happen with Wii U. Miyamoto's new IP can be either an epic fail or an epic win, X looks very promising, Mario Kart and Smash Bros. will be decisive, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze and Yarn Yoshi aren't system sellers at all but are definitely strong additions to the catalogue. I'll just go ahead and quote myself: Sales always take weird twists. Personally, I'd like them all to do at least well enough to make profit.

Wii u's 2014 lineup is quite ahead of ps4/xone's. and even games that may actually be big, like FF 15 (if it's 2014), still have lot's of time to be confirmed for wii u.

it isn't. Uncharted and Halo will outsell every WiiU exclusive this year. WiiU won't be getting many if any big third party games, third parties have been burnt enough,

"Uncharted and Halo will outsell every WiiU exclusive this year."

I'm 100% sure that multiple wii u 2014 exclusives will outsell those two.

Everything you say is 100% sure to happen, never happens. Like your 100% WiiU won't be under 6m this year.

But really. You know what Halo sells right?? What multiplat is going to come close to that on WiiU? Pray tell.

#1: Fair enough, but my point is still the same regardless. The "newness" factor of the next gen consoles is wearing out. The X1 is already hovering near Wii U numbers (it was only 50K ahead), and while I'll certainly grant that the PS4 for the moment is still comfortably ahead, it certainly isn't going to stay at 600 K a week numbers forever.

#2: I would say the holidays indicate the price cut does quite a lot, although the holidays are certainy shaky ground for determining trends at best. A year old console has competed fairly well with a couple of new console releases, with all of the hype accompanying them. It certainly hasn't been blown out of the water, like all the doomsday threads suggested.

#3: I'm not trying to take Wii sales as a given. Like I said in my post above, I am in no way suggesting that these games will sell a combined 50 million units, or anything similar. The Wii U certainly has a much smaller install base, and a much smaller appeal than the Wii. Hence why I used average sales, and threw out MK8 as an outliar. Trust me, I'm not trying to skew things in Nintendo's favor here.

Considering the Wii U's install base, it'll probably be even smaller than average. But MK and SSB routinely sell so well that even if they didn't perform as well as they have in the past, it'd still be a huge boost, and it'd almost assuredly sell more than a few consoles as well.

All of this is speculation, of course, so yeah, I guess waiting til Spring is probably the best solution at this point.