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Seece on 04 January 2014
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MTZehvor said:
vivster said:

First, the WiiU didn't outsell the X1. This was revised by VGC and X1 is now comfortably in front in that week. Also PS4 outsold it by a large margin.

Second, if 2013 and the holiday season say anything then the price advantage currently does nothing with many people even claiming the price for the WiiU is much too high while the PS4 is actually considered relatively cheap for a launch console of that caliber.

Third, I think we can argue about this all day. I may be selling the WiiU and the games a bit short but you certainly oversell them. I wouldn't take the Wii numbers as any indication for the WiiU.

We will see end of spring how far the gap is between PS4 and WiiU and then we can argue again if it is possible for WiiU to close the gap when it's already at a disadvantage. If the one unit I will buy of the WiiU next year doesn't help it then nothing will^^

#1: Fair enough, but my point is still the same regardless. The "newness" factor of the next gen consoles is wearing out. The X1 is already hovering near Wii U numbers (it was only 50K ahead), and while I'll certainly grant that the PS4 for the moment is still comfortably ahead, it certainly isn't going to stay at 600 K a week numbers forever.

#2: I would say the holidays indicate the price cut does quite a lot, although the holidays are certainy shaky ground for determining trends at best. A year old console has competed fairly well with a couple of new console releases, with all of the hype accompanying them. It certainly hasn't been blown out of the water, like all the doomsday threads suggested.

#3: I'm not trying to take Wii sales as a given. Like I said in my post above, I am in no way suggesting that these games will sell a combined 50 million units, or anything similar. The Wii U certainly has a much smaller install base, and a much smaller appeal than the Wii. Hence why I used average sales, and threw out MK8 as an outliar. Trust me, I'm not trying to skew things in Nintendo's favor here.

Considering the Wii U's install base, it'll probably be even smaller than average. But MK and SSB routinely sell so well that even if they didn't perform as well as they have in the past, it'd still be a huge boost, and it'd almost assuredly sell more than a few consoles as well.

All of this is speculation, of course, so yeah, I guess waiting til Spring is probably the best solution at this point.

#1 XB1 is in 13 countries and I imagine some have supply issues (not the US it seems) even so you really can't judge anything right now, holiday sales make things so hard to predict for new consoles.

#2 November NPD, WiiU 220k, XB1 910k, PS4 1.2m. That is definitely blowing WiiU out of the water. Same as UK. What other region do you want to compare? Japan has no competition, anywhere else and PS4 is doing far far better than WiiU.

#3 I'm sure MK and Smash will sells consoles, but a huge boost? Did they give Gamecube a huge boost?