episteme said:
They wouldn't help much, they'd sell 100-200k each, maybe GTA a little more. Even Call of Duty at 1080p with all the DLC wouldn't help much more than the existing ports. |
Call of Duty Wii versions have 4 million sellers to date.
What's the point of no return for WiiU? | |||
| When/if MK fails | 121 | 35.07% | |
| When/if Smash fails | 64 | 18.55% | |
| When/if a $100 cut fails | 78 | 22.61% | |
| Other | 79 | 22.90% | |
| Total: | 342 | ||
episteme said:
They wouldn't help much, they'd sell 100-200k each, maybe GTA a little more. Even Call of Duty at 1080p with all the DLC wouldn't help much more than the existing ports. |
Call of Duty Wii versions have 4 million sellers to date.
| PenguinZ said: Well there's at least three big releases slated for the first half this year, along with the likely announcement of Zelda U. If the things that are coming out or being announced this year aren't enough to at least double the user base, then nothing can push the U... If Nintendo can't salvage the Wii U with top rate software, what hope do they have to push a future console. |
WiiU Fit isn't huge until it proves itself, DK, what else? MK is 'spring'.
| morenoingrato said: Sadly, it might just be past that point. Although I have come to accept that, it is still incredibly bitter to see Sony fans celebrating it like some kind of achievement. |
I'm a Sony fan and I own a Wii U so why would I want the Wii U to fail??? I want Nintendo to support the WiiU till the end and release quality titles like they have been for many years and that's only going to happen if it succeeds.
The only reason why I believe that some Sony fans celebrate it as an achievement is because some Nintendo fans were constantly attacking the Vita and it's poor sales and celebrating THAT as an achievement.
The whole thing is a double edged sword. For instance, Sony is doing well in the console market but horrible at the handheld market, for Nintendo it's the other way round; doing brilliant in the handheld market and not so much in the console market.
I really can't see how a $100 price drop would not create a shit ton of sales. Profit on the other hand...
"Games are a trigger for adults to again become primitive, primal, as a way of thinking and remembering. An adult is a child who has more ethics and morals, that's all. When I am a child, creating, I am not creating a game. I am in the game. The game is not for children, it is for me. It is for an adult who still has a character of a child."
Shigeru Miyamoto
| Hibern81 said: I really can't see how a $100 price drop would not create a shit ton of sales. Profit on the other hand... |
Economics. I could tell you about demand curves and elasticity and blah blah blah... but frankly, i dont listen to my wife when she talks about that stuff
| Seece said: Definitely not guaranteed, at least not to any significance. $300 isn't *gasp, too expensive* that was the entry point for Kinect, which did 25m+, arguably at least 10m+ of those were to casuals. |
Kinect was seen as worth the extra money though. For $300 the casual gamer got an HD system with an already established library, and a motion control add-on for your body.
With the Wii U, you're basically paying $300 for a tablet thing you don't want and the ability to play count em 2 Mario games! (casual perspective)
It isn't the same. Plus, the GC price drops didn't start raining money for Nintendo either and that's what we are discussing at the moment. GC against Wii U. Wii U has more price drop options, which will only help long-term sales. (Even if not much)
Dream_While_Awake said:
Kinect was seen as worth the extra money though. For $300 the casual gamer got an HD system with an already established library, and a motion control add-on for your body. With the Wii U, you're basically paying $300 for a tablet thing you don't want and the ability to play count em 2 Mario games! (casual perspective) It isn't the same. Plus, the GC price drops didn't start raining money for Nintendo either and that's what we are discussing at the moment. GC against Wii U. Wii U has more price drop options, which will only help long-term sales. (Even if not much) |
If they don't want the gamepad and Mario at $300, they don't want it at $200 either. It's in the range where if the masses wanted it they would buy it. Heck Wii would have sold gangbusters at $400.
People rage on about $199 but really, people have more disposable cash than that. Look at the $$$ people put down on tablets.
Blood_Tears said:
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But I doubt they were systems-sellers for the Wii. The relatively high sales numbers were the effect of the high install base, not it's cause.
The Wii U CoDs have higher attach rates than the Wii CoDs, but they don't sell Wii U's at all. Only first party games and third party exclusives can do that.

| Dream_While_Awake said: Kinect was seen as worth the extra money though. For $300 the casual gamer got an HD system with an already established library, and a motion control add-on for your body. With the Wii U, you're basically paying $300 for a tablet thing you don't want and the ability to play count em 2 Mario games! (casual perspective) It isn't the same. Plus, the GC price drops didn't start raining money for Nintendo either and that's what we are discussing at the moment. GC against Wii U. Wii U has more price drop options, which will only help long-term sales. (Even if not much) |
i think this post supports our point of view